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    Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Army Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl was set to return to regular active duty status as early as Monday, having completed therapy and counseling following his return from captivity in Afghanistan, according to reports.

    Bergdahl, who was released in May after five years as a Taliban prisoner of war in Afghanistan, will work at the Army North headquarters at Fort Sam Houston in San Antonio, the New York Times and CNN reported, citing defense officials.
    So it turns out that investigators did not press AWOL charges against him, and from previous stories that he frequently left the base to take hikes, and then came back each time, it turns out that the accusations against him from many pundits here were unfounded. So why the firestorm over the trade to get him back? We don't leave our own in the hands of the enemy, whether or not they were AWOL, but it seems that some here were very willing to do that, whether or not Bergdahl had been AWOL or not. What the hell is happening to us if we are willing to throw our soldiers into the garbage over allegations, even before an investigation shows the evidence was not enough to put Bergdahl on trial? So we traded 5 Taliban members for Bergdahl - I call that a good trade. Bergdahl is one of ours, and we don't leave ours behind to rot on the battlefield, or in the prisons of the enemy. That is the American way.

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    re: Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

    First of all, that's not nearly long enough to recover sufficiently from that long in captivity.

    Second, the investigation isn't over...nor should it be.

    I would consider this guy a danger and security risk until proven otherwise.
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    re: Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

    Let the games begin.

    The question will now be simple. Do you believe this man (Bergdahl) and the investigators / government that used him for a big media splash, the same regime that has lied over and over or do you believe the soldiers that claim he is a deserter and traitor to the nation? I know who I believe, and I suspect anyone that loves our current regime will believe opposite. Sad that the truth may never be known, but I can't take for granted anything that comes from this government.

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    So it turns out that investigators did not press AWOL charges against him, and from previous stories that he frequently left the base to take hikes, and then came back each time, it turns out that the accusations against him from many pundits here were unfounded. So why the firestorm over the trade to get him back? We don't leave our own in the hands of the enemy, whether or not they were AWOL, but it seems that some here were very willing to do that, whether or not Bergdahl had been AWOL or not. What the hell is happening to us if we are willing to throw our soldiers into the garbage over allegations, even before an investigation shows the evidence was not enough to put Bergdahl on trial? So we traded 5 Taliban members for Bergdahl - I call that a good trade. Bergdahl is one of ours, and we don't leave ours behind to rot on the battlefield, or in the prisons of the enemy. That is the American way.

    Article is here.

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    re: Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Let the games begin.

    The question will now be simple. Do you believe this man (Bergdahl) and the investigators / government that used him for a big media splash, the same regime that has lied over and over or do you believe the soldiers that claim he is a deserter and traitor to the nation? I know who I believe, and I suspect anyone that loves our current regime will believe opposite. Sad that the truth may never be known, but I can't take for granted anything that comes from this government.
    I believe the Army, who put him back on active duty instead of prosecuting him.
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    re: Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    So it turns out that investigators did not press AWOL charges against him, and from previous stories that he frequently left the base to take hikes, and then came back each time, it turns out that the accusations against him from many pundits here were unfounded. So why the firestorm over the trade to get him back? We don't leave our own in the hands of the enemy, whether or not they were AWOL, but it seems that some here were very willing to do that, whether or not Bergdahl had been AWOL or not. What the hell is happening to us if we are willing to throw our soldiers into the garbage over allegations, even before an investigation shows the evidence was not enough to put Bergdahl on trial? So we traded 5 Taliban members for Bergdahl - I call that a good trade. Bergdahl is one of ours, and we don't leave ours behind to rot on the battlefield, or in the prisons of the enemy. That is the American way.

    Article is here.
    Your article never said that they did not press AWOL charges it said the investigation is ongoing. That means they are still looking into it not that he has been cleared. You either need to slow down your bias or at least read your own article.
    I think any way you look at it the turd left his post on his own accord. That at a minimum is dereliction of duty if not more and more than likely a lot more.
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    re: Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I believe the Army, who put him back on active duty instead of prosecuting him.
    Who's in charge of the Army and all of our armed forces?

    Dunno how much the Army has actually changed since 1991, but if this "hiking" which btw is not part of the article (is this REALLY the story they came up with? ) occurred back then, they'd be found guilty via court martial and DD'd so fast it'd make your head spin. So some questions here that weren't addressed in the article:

    - Did his CO provide permission for him to take these "hikes"? If so, I'd like to see that since it wasn't mentioned in the article in the OP....
    - Who from JAG is investigating and when is the investigation expected to be complete?

    Let me put it this way... either way he should be hauled in front of a judge and either found guilty or not guilty to desertion. I'm way to cynical to see this as just the Army following SOP - this has the fingerprints of political activity all over it.
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    re: Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I believe the Army, who put him back on active duty instead of prosecuting him.
    So how was he captured? Did he just walk off his post? And if so, that isn't the army that won World War II, I'll tell you that.

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    re: Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    So it turns out that investigators did not press AWOL charges against him, and from previous stories that he frequently left the base to take hikes, and then came back each time, it turns out that the accusations against him from many pundits here were unfounded. So why the firestorm over the trade to get him back? We don't leave our own in the hands of the enemy, whether or not they were AWOL, but it seems that some here were very willing to do that, whether or not Bergdahl had been AWOL or not. What the hell is happening to us if we are willing to throw our soldiers into the garbage over allegations, even before an investigation shows the evidence was not enough to put Bergdahl on trial? So we traded 5 Taliban members for Bergdahl - I call that a good trade. Bergdahl is one of ours, and we don't leave ours behind to rot on the battlefield, or in the prisons of the enemy. That is the American way.

    Article is here.
    You have placed the cart before the horse. There has been no announcement regarding the outcome of the still ongoing investigation into Bergdahl's disappearance. In fact, it seems you did not even bother to read your own linked article, as it contains the following:
    The Pentagon also said the Army was still investigating the circumstances surrounding Bergdahl's 2009 disappearance from his post in Afghanistan and subsequent capture by Taliban militants.
    If you really can't fathom why there was a "firestorm" about the Bergdahl trade I doubt anyone at DP can help you with that. Simply repeating the administration mantras offered as reasoning behind their decision? Is just so much reheated and re-stated rhetoric and spin. Particularly given that we don't even know what the outcome of the investigation is.

    One can be happy that the obviously troubled young man has been brought home and given help. One can also at the same time have rational concerns, issues and questions about the deal that procured his release. Having just gone back and looked through several of the threads at DP that related to this matter, it is no surprise that you are saying essentially the same thing now that you were then. Even as you lay claim to an outcome to the investigation that has not been reached. Which would have been obvious had you actually read the article you linked to before you posted it. Clearly you had your mind made up very early in the process of the breaking of this story. Not surprisingly you are of the same mindset now you had then, confused by the fall out of developments and revelations. And claiming an outcome which obviously you desire, but is far from a fact, even though you act as if this is the case.

    I'll await the outcome of the investigation and see what if any recommendations are made then. Before I reach any conclusions or start making claims about events which have not been resolved. As much as you really really want your version of events and your peculiar failure to grasp the issues at play here to the definitive take on this "good trade"? I'll also await confirmation about the death toll to other soldiers who were searching for Bergdahl and lost their lives as a result, as well as what the panel finds to have been Bergdahl's actual actions before I pronounce this a "good" situation or a pitiable one.

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    re: Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    So how was he captured? Did he just walk off his post? And if so, that isn't the army that won World War II, I'll tell you that.
    Look at it from a purely political perspective.... Bergdahl is the face of the Presidents decision to release 5 top Taliban terrorists. Obama met with Bergdahl's parents and had a photo op in the Rose garden celebrating their son's release. Then the WH finds out the American people aren't fawning over how wonderful the decision is so now, Bergdahl is the lynch pin - and he's been reported by his squad as walking off base and desertion on the record. How do you salvage that? Well... by absolving Bergdahl, by giving him doctors and psychologists, and a re-integration plan etc.... then delay any investigation until late 2016 or better yet 2017, have an "on going investigation" which may or may not exist but will buy time, and then get this guy back into daily Army life. You may ask - so what's the end game? The end game is, to delay and let most of this blow over, and then either go through a dog and pony show court martial, or better yet just find that there was no wrong doing in an official "investigation" report, or if you have to, court martial the guy after Obama is out of office so it's not his problem any more and he can deflect questions and blame it on anyone and anything other than him (which has been his MO for the past 5 1/2 years).
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    re: Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    First of all, that's not nearly long enough to recover sufficiently from that long in captivity.

    Second, the investigation isn't over...nor should it be.

    I would consider this guy a danger and security risk until proven otherwise.
    Right, to imagine he couldn't speak English and now is ready to be back on active duty after 5 years of being a prisoner.

    And yes the investigation is continuing, maybe Bergdahl needs to be back on active duty to be tried...

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