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    re: Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

    Sorry but I can't trust a regime that can't back up files, blames a YouTube video and tells everyone they can keep their dr when some can't. Finding this man guilty would have damned our dictator and they won't let that happen. Trust is earned and this regime has NONE.


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    The answer is simple. Do YOU support the 5th and 14th Amendment Rights of Due Process? IF you do, and I have my doubts that you do, then Bergdahl is innocent until proven guilty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    Why? The evidence shows that he deserted his post.
    You haven't seen any evidence yet. Fellow soldiers have made claims. But don't forget, Bergdahl was critical of the US mission and FP generally in the region, look at the way current and ex-soldiers treat you here on this board for such criticism!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Sorry but I can't trust a regime that can't back up files, blames a YouTube video and tells everyone they can keep their dr when some can't. Finding this man guilty would have damned our dictator and they won't let that happen. Trust is earned and this regime has NONE.
    One things certain, things in America are deteriorating. There was a sizeable crowd who felt the same way about dictator and regime during the Bush administration as well. Though I don't recall too much of that from prior administrations to that.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Obama believes he's above the law.
    Do recall that about forty years ago, or so, there was a republican president that told us that "if the president does it, its not illegal", which pretty much means a president can do whatever he wants, which reminds me of Bush-2. Obama too appears to think he's above the law at times. If partisans on the left would hold him accountable, as partisans on the right SHOULD have held their presidents accountable, perhaps we wouldn't find ourselves in this mess. Can you and I and everybody else hold all our presidents accountable and **** all this party crap? No, prolly not. So look for some more of the same ****, only worse next time!
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    re: Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You haven't seen any evidence yet. Fellow soldiers have made claims. But don't forget, Bergdahl was critical of the US mission and FP generally in the region, look at the way current and ex-soldiers treat you here on this board for such criticism!
    His squad leader claims he deserted his post. That, by itself, is evidence enough to warrant an investigation. That testimony is enough for a conviction.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Do recall that about forty years ago, or so, there was a republican president that told us that "if the president does it, its not illegal", which pretty much means a president can do whatever he wants, which reminds me of Bush-2. Obama too appears to think he's above the law at times. If partisans on the left would hold him accountable, as partisans on the right SHOULD have held their presidents accountable, perhaps we wouldn't find ourselves in this mess. Can you and I and everybody else hold all our presidents accountable and **** all this party crap? No, prolly not. So look for some more of the same ****, only worse next time!
    You people are so desperate to cover for Obama that you're going to quote Nixon?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    His squad leader claims he deserted his post. That, by itself, is evidence enough to warrant an investigation. That testimony is enough for a conviction.
    I haven't suggested that there shouldn't be an investigation.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You people are so desperate to cover for Obama that you're going to quote Nixon?
    What a ****ing wasted post on your ass, didn't even read it all. Right there in the middle is acknowledgement that Obama thinks himself above the law. Unlike you hypocrites, I want ALL criminals held accountable, not just the democratic ones.
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    re: Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    So it turns out that investigators did not press AWOL charges against him, and from previous stories that he frequently left the base to take hikes, and then came back each time, it turns out that the accusations against him from many pundits here were unfounded. So why the firestorm over the trade to get him back? We don't leave our own in the hands of the enemy, whether or not they were AWOL, but it seems that some here were very willing to do that, whether or not Bergdahl had been AWOL or not. What the hell is happening to us if we are willing to throw our soldiers into the garbage over allegations, even before an investigation shows the evidence was not enough to put Bergdahl on trial? So we traded 5 Taliban members for Bergdahl - I call that a good trade. Bergdahl is one of ours, and we don't leave ours behind to rot on the battlefield, or in the prisons of the enemy. That is the American way.

    Article is here.
    I do not know where you got this hiking thing, not from the article as it stated: “The Pentagon also said the Army was still investigating the circumstances surrounding Bergdahl's 2009 disappearance from his post in Afghanistan and subsequent capture by Taliban militants.”

    Now whether Bergdahl was a deserter, went AWOL or just decided to take a hike is unknown to us unless you have some inside information. But the outcry is not the release of Bergdahl, it is over whom we gave up to get him. The equivalent of 5 enemy hard core generals for one PFC. Having attended two American Legion meetings and one of the VFW, I can tell you the retired community is against the swap. One does not release 5 hard core anyone’s who can come back and bite you very hard. As in killing more Americans, harming more Americans and open up the kidnapping of more Americans to get more prisoners released.

    Giving up these 5 is way overboard. Prisoner exchanges usually involve like rank, enlisted for enlisted, officers for officers and spies for spies. They usually involve a fairly even amount of prisoners exchanged. In this case 5 for 1 would fall into the latter category taking into consideration who we are dealing with. But not the first. I and those I talked to at the meetings wouldn’t have minded even a 20 Taliban fighters for one of our guys, notice the word fighter or you can substitute soldier. Enlisted soldier or their equivalent which would be fighter. Not the commanders and leaders, not the planners and head commo guy. What you do not do is put much more people, Americans, Allies, Afghan civilians in danger or increase their risks to obtain the release of a lone or even multiple POW’s.

    A soldier’s responsibility is to protect and defend his country and his fellow soldiers while ensuring the safety of the civilians in his area of responsibility. Releasing these 5 flies into the face of what a soldier is responsible for. I would not have done it and if I was held captive, I would not want to be exchanged for those five.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    re: Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

    christ, they just shaved the guy's beard off and already he's going to active duty? The "experts" said it would take months for him to get back to a normal life. Why don't they do what the police do and put the guy on leave with pay until the investigation is concluded?
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