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    re: Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    "Motive" is not conviction. I don't think you know much about the legal process.
    Says the poster who can't even explain what "motives" supposedly exist that would lead Bergdahl's fellow soldiers to throw him under the bus. Or not throw him under the bus, as you have managed to argue both contradictory postures. Clearly your study of poorly written legal mellow dramas may yet pay off and result in a semi cognizant yet still lacking, tortured contortion of a empty posture. Hey why not repeat the mantra about "due process" again? For the imaginary crowd on your imaginary bus that is supposed to be calling for no due process. That would be even more brilliant than when you did it the last 6 times.

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    re: Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by Filthy McNasty View Post
    Says the poster who can't even explain what "motives" supposedly exist that would lead Bergdahl's fellow soldiers to throw him under the bus. Or not throw him under the bus, as you have managed to argue both contradictory postures. Clearly your study of poorly written legal mellow dramas may yet pay off and result in a semi cognizant yet still lacking, tortured contortion of a empty posture. Hey why not repeat the mantra that "due process" again? For the imaginary crowd on your imaginary bus that is supposed to be calling for no due process. That would be even more brilliant than when you did it the last 6 times.
    I've explained the motive to you half a dozen times. Bergdahl was very critical of the military, accused them of murder and criticised US FP, in the region. If you can't see where the motive comes into play, I can't help you any further. Btw, again, having the motive doesn't necessitate guilt. That's for the investigation to determine. Wait and see.
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    re: Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I've explained the motive to you half a dozen times. Bergdahl was very critical of the military, accused them of murder and criticised US FP, in the region. If you can't see where the motive comes into play, I can't help you any further. Btw, again, having the motive doesn't necessitate guilt. That's for the investigation to determine. Wait and see.
    You have not explained anything. You've done a lot of shuck jive talking, ad hom flinging instead. Along the way you accidentally exposed that you are not even familiar with the Bergdahl timeline. Which is OK, that was obvious the second you started acting like you were. In order for Bergdahl's fellow company members to actually be aware of his stances on the military? You have to ignore when where and with whom he shared his beliefs and feelings. Something you obviously have no clue about or you would not be arguing such a vacuous and lacking position. But again, why don't you share with us the "source" for your mangled understanding of events surrounding Bergdahl's desertion? Or is the real crux of the matter that you realize your imagination is not going to be recognized as realistic or accurately informed?

    The good news is that furious yet empty little postures like yours won't have much play when it comes down to actual due process. Rather the facts of the matter and the actual timeline of events will, which leaves your sad fantasy shtick exposed for the shuck jive it is.
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    re: Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    So a bunch of retired vets that have "fought for our freedoms" wishing to deny Bergdahl due process, have already decided he's guilty and should be court martialed and or dishonourably discharged!
    They haven't said they deny Bergdahl due process. You made that up. Of course they have decided he's guilty. They were there. They are witnesses. Bergdahl won't get due process. He won't get anything but a military career where he will be considered a cretin until he leaves. There won't be an investigation or a court martial. The White House has seen to that.

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    re: Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    They haven't said they deny Bergdahl due process. You made that up. Of course they have decided he's guilty. They were there. They are witnesses. Bergdahl won't get due process. He won't get anything but a military career where he will be considered a cretin until he leaves. There won't be an investigation or a court martial. The White House has seen to that.
    Oh this one is positively fixated on acting as if someone, anyone, is calling for the end of due process. While you may (hopefully not) be correct about what happens to Bergdahl ultimately? It won't have anything to do with Bergdahl not getting his day in court. Nor the non existent calls by non existent participants in this thread to deny Bergdahl "due process" or his day in court. It gets pretty stupid having to strike poses and fling strawmen around the thread, but as demonstrated Monecresto is up for it anyway!

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    re: Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    They haven't said they deny Bergdahl due process. You made that up. Of course they have decided he's guilty. They were there. They are witnesses. Bergdahl won't get due process. He won't get anything but a military career where he will be considered a cretin until he leaves. There won't be an investigation or a court martial. The White House has seen to that.
    Oh, the old guys at the VFW hall were witnesses to this. If they have decided he's guilty, before an investigation and trial, then they are denying him due process. Why is everybody afraid of giving this guy his day in court. If he's guilty as you all insist, a trial will bear that out and we can court martial him and be done with this.
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    re: Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by Filthy McNasty View Post
    Oh this one is positively fixated on acting as if someone, anyone, is calling for the end of due process. While you may (hopefully not) be correct about what happens to Bergdahl ultimately? It won't have anything to do with Bergdahl not getting his day in court. Nor the non existent calls by non existent participants in this thread to deny Bergdahl "due process" or his day in court. It gets pretty stupid having to strike poses and fling strawmen around the thread, but as demonstrated Monecresto is up for it anyway!
    Wow, you've really got your knickers in a knot. Careful not to break your keyboard.
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    re: Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Wow, you've really got your knickers in a knot. Careful not to break your keyboard.
    Actually knowing the Bergdahl timeline does not leave one with their knickers in a knot. It does lead to some laughter at the expense of ignorant and less than artful dodgers like you though. Quick, better get back to calling out all the non existent posters in the thread calling for an end to due process!

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    re: Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Oh, the old guys at the VFW hall were witnesses to this. If they have decided he's guilty, before an investigation and trial, then they are denying him due process. Why is everybody afraid of giving this guy his day in court. If he's guilty as you all insist, a trial will bear that out and we can court martial him and be done with this.
    Nobody is against his having his day in court. We're mostly angry because that won't happen.

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    re: Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    Nobody is against his having his day in court. We're mostly angry because that won't happen.
    Considering that there are a number of his fellow servicemen claiming he went AWOL (even though they have potential motive, which may or may not have been acted upon) an investigation is necessary. And if you are correct and there is no investigation, then I agree with you and will be angry with you. However, I suspect that if an investigation brought him exoneration, you wouldn't accept that either.
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