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    re: Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    So it turns out that investigators did not press AWOL charges against him, and from previous stories that he frequently left the base to take hikes, and then came back each time, it turns out that the accusations against him from many pundits here were unfounded. So why the firestorm over the trade to get him back? We don't leave our own in the hands of the enemy, whether or not they were AWOL, but it seems that some here were very willing to do that, whether or not Bergdahl had been AWOL or not. What the hell is happening to us if we are willing to throw our soldiers into the garbage over allegations, even before an investigation shows the evidence was not enough to put Bergdahl on trial? So we traded 5 Taliban members for Bergdahl - I call that a good trade. Bergdahl is one of ours, and we don't leave ours behind to rot on the battlefield, or in the prisons of the enemy. That is the American way.

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    You are simply ignorant, as most are, how the military works. Just because he was returned to duty does not mean charges will not be pressed against him. It is completely normal for someone to be returned to duty after an incident so that an investigation can be done and the person can be held accountable for whatever the investigation unveils. Even after an individual is charged, convicted of a crime and then discrarged, many times there is a length of time they are still "Active Duty" while they go thru the administration process of being discharged. Those who are charged and put in a military prison are still also technically "Active Duty" until they complete their punishment. Then they are administratively discharged dishonorably and have to pay back all benefits (Basically meaning they won't get paid to be in prison).

    So you sir, are incorrect. The media is only trying to play off the ignorance of people like you.
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    re: Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    You are simply ignorant, as most are, how the military works. Just because he was returned to duty does not mean charges will not be pressed against him. It is completely normal for someone to be returned to duty after an incident so that an investigation can be done and the person can be held accountable for whatever the investigation unveils. Even after an individual is charged, convicted of a crime and then discrarged, many times there is a length of time they are still "Active Duty" while they go thru the administration process of being discharged. Those who are charged and put in a military prison are still also technically "Active Duty" until they complete their punishment. Then they are administratively discharged dishonorably and have to pay back all benefits (Basically meaning they won't get paid to be in prison).

    So you sir, are incorrect. The media is only trying to play off the ignorance of people like you.
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    There aren't going to be any charges. We both know that.
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    re: Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    There aren't going to be any charges. We both know that.
    There will be as long as the public does not allow the Obama administration and his party to sweep this under the rug.
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    re: Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    There will be as long as the public does not allow the Obama administration and his party to sweep this under the rug.
    They're already swinging the broom, my friend. This is over, gone, history. Berdahl deserted his unit, Obama looks like a dumbass and he's going to have it fixed.
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    re: Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They're already swinging the broom, my friend. This is over, gone, history. Berdahl deserted his unit, Obama looks like a dumbass and he's going to have it fixed.
    I hope not, but I don't discount the possibility. The Obama administration are masters at feel goodery rhetoric. That is what got them elected.
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    re: Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    I hope not, but I don't discount the possibility. The Obama administration are masters at feel goodery rhetoric. That is what got them elected.
    I hope I'm wrong, but when you look at the regime's track record, I'm afraid that I'm not.
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    re: Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by Filthy McNasty View Post
    I can guarantee you that I'm very well versed with what Bergdahl has said and to whom he said it, and more importantly when he said these things. Which is why I asked you to support your comment, it is so obviously plucked from the ether. So which of the comments about the military is that you claim Bargdahl's fellow company members were aware of? That could have served as "motive" to throw him under the bus? Even though you rather humorlessly claim you did not claim they did throw him under the bus! See I don't think you have a clue about any of this, likewise I don't think you can demonstrate, timeline wise, that your "theory" has a lick of common sense to it. Frankly it is a hot mess, that leaves you contradicting yourself and dodging the question over and over again. Even offering ad homs to me rather than just answering the question. And then of course, here you are again, pretending not to recognize that nobody has argued anything but let Bergdahl have his day in court. These bromides and deflections of yours are not very persuasive, do you think they are?
    What a _______________Bergdhal will have his day in court, continue pouting.
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    re: Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    What a _______________Bergdhal will have his day in court, continue pouting.
    Is this brain dead on arrival brain fart all you have? You should probably fall back on your previously delivered ad homs at this point, rather than just illustrating a lack of cerebral activity. But sure, why not? Brilliant reply! Completely masks your previous contributions as equally brain dead. Why not?

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    re: Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    No, witness testimony isn't evidence. Witnesses can be discredited through cross examination. Not saying they will be, but, investigation and trial will determine his fate. Not you and I.
    His fate is already determined. There will be no court martial.

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    re: Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    No, witness testimony isn't evidence. Witnesses can be discredited through cross examination. Not saying they will be, but, investigation and trial will determine his fate. Not you and I.
    And the fact that he left the compound in the middle of the night without telling anyone that he was going and without his gear is not evidence? He deserted. The question is why and it is a question we will never have answered.

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