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    Re: San Francisco Says Enough Monkey Business: Tells Parking Spot App to Shut Down

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    But they aren't selling the parking spots, they are just telling you where they are aren't they?
    They are aiding unfair profiteering of public property.

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    Re: San Francisco Says Enough Monkey Business: Tells Parking Spot App to Shut Down

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Ah, it seems like I might have misunderstood.
    So do most people.

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    Re: San Francisco Says Enough Monkey Business: Tells Parking Spot App to Shut Down

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Gloat explosion imminent.
    Ain't no shame in gloating if you're right. The parking spots are public property of SF. The city of SF has a right to determine how they are used. A company in Rome doesn't. First come, first served.
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    Re: San Francisco Says Enough Monkey Business: Tells Parking Spot App to Shut Down

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Gloat explosion imminent.
    I'll gloat to this extent.

    I expected this to be one of a few possibilities, if favor of SF.

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    Re: San Francisco Says Enough Monkey Business: Tells Parking Spot App to Shut Down

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Ain't no shame in gloating if you're right. The parking spots are public property of SF. The city of SF has a right to determine how they are used. A company in Rome doesn't. First come, first served.
    Oh, hell! I'd gloat, too!

    Remember, though, that the company capitulating doesn't necessary mean it's been "decided". Right? Until it winds it way through the court system, nothing's been proven except "the big guy wins". I'm just sayin'...

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    Re: San Francisco Says Enough Monkey Business: Tells Parking Spot App to Shut Down

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Oh, hell! I'd gloat, too!

    Remember, though, that the company capitulating doesn't necessary mean it's been "decided". Right? Until it winds it way through the court system, nothing's been proven except "the big guy wins". I'm just sayin'...

    My bet is they will tweak the application to filter friendly and foe cities rather than take it to court.

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    Re: San Francisco Says Enough Monkey Business: Tells Parking Spot App to Shut Down

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Oh, hell! I'd gloat, too!

    Remember, though, that the company capitulating doesn't necessary mean it's been "decided". Right? Until it winds it way through the court system, nothing's been proven except "the big guy wins". I'm just sayin'...

    I beg to differ. Companies like this one have been regularly taken to court over the same types of matter and 4 outcomes seem to happen:

    1. The company settles out of court.
    2. The company withdraws from the city/state.
    3. It is established that cities have a right to determine how public property is used.
    4. The company complies with the law.

    This is Civics 101. Private companies don't have a right to create class systems that determine who gets to use public property. If a company decides to build parking spaces, I'm all for it setting the pricing schemes as it chooses. What I'm not in favor of is being charged by some asshole on the street for public property that my taxes paid for.
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    Re: San Francisco Says Enough Monkey Business: Tells Parking Spot App to Shut Down

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I beg to differ. Companies like this one have been regularly taken to court over the same types of matter and 4 outcomes seem to happen:

    1. The company settles out of court.
    2. The company withdraws from the city/state.
    3. It is established that cities have a right to determine how public property is used.
    4. The company complies with the law.

    This is Civics 101. Private companies don't have a right to create class systems that determine who gets to use public property. If a company decides to build parking spaces, I'm all for it setting the pricing schemes as it chooses. What I'm not in favor of is being charged by some asshole on the street for public property that my taxes paid for.
    Mind begging to differ with a link supporting your claim?

    I don't feel strongly one way or another. It's one of those posts I weighed in on thinking, "They're selling a service." If this has already been adjudicated, I'd appreciate a link.
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    Re: San Francisco Says Enough Monkey Business: Tells Parking Spot App to Shut Down

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    My bet is they will tweak the application to filter friendly and foe cities rather than take it to court.

    I would love it if they would do this, because then we could see which cities had a more unpleasant parking experience, and therefore which ones are the ones really to avoid. My bet would be that after the market developed, the 'friendly' cities would be VERY expensive to find parking in at peak times.

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    Re: San Francisco Says Enough Monkey Business: Tells Parking Spot App to Shut Down

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Mind begging to differ with a link supporting your claim?

    I don't feel strongly one way or another. It's one of those posts I weighed in on thinking, "They're selling a service." If this has already been adjudicated, I'd appreciate a link.
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