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    Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Open Borders!
    Immigrants Gone Wild.
    Everyone who can make it in.. gets in
    What a country!.. we were.
    Now there are so many Former Illegals, they have their own Reps, and THEY are the swing vote on Current Illegals.

    Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay - Bloomberg
    By Heidi Przybyla
    Jul 11, 2014 3:29 PM ET


    Photographer: Alex Wong/Getty Images
    U.S. Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-IL) (R) speaks as (L-4th L) Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D-CA),
    Rep. Lucille Roybal-Allard (D-CA), Rep. Rubén Hinojosa (D-TX), and Rep. Albio Sires (D-NJ)
    during a news conference on July 11, 2014 on Capitol Hill in Washington, DC.


    The Congressional Hispanic Caucus will meet with President Barack Obama later this month, and a leader of the group said he’ll urge Obama to issue work permits to let millions of undocumented immigrants stay in the U.S.

    “This is a moment for the president to stand up and say ‘the country believes we should reform our immigration system,’” Representative Luis Gutierrez said in an interview on Bloomberg Television’s “Political Capital with Al Hunt,” airing this weekend.

    Gutierrez, immigration chairman for the 27-member Hispanic caucus, said members plan to meet with Obama the week of July 21 to discuss immigration laws. With prospects for a comprehensive measure stalled, Congress is now considering the president’s $3.7 billion spending proposal to cope with an influx of thousands of unaccompanied children at the U.S.-Mexico border.

    Gutierrez said Obama told him in March that if the Republican-led House didn’t act on immigration legislation, he should return to the White House in July to discuss what the president could accomplish instead through executive orders.

    He said Obama should begin granting work permits to the millions of undocumented immigrants
    who would have had a chance to seek legal status under a bill the Democratic-controlled Senate passed last year.

    “I think he can begin to do it and I think he can reach that goal,” Gutierrez said. “I hope the president says, ‘This is the beginning.’”

    Unaccompanied Children

    Gutierrez, an Illinois Democrat, said he opposed a drive in Congress to reduce the legal rights of unaccompanied children arriving at the U.S.-Mexico border from Central America.
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    Now Barak can take the 'Middle ground' and let in a million for 'humanitarian reasons'.

    NO Amnesty.
    NO Path to Citizenship
    NO Send/Have your kids here and reunite - trick.

    NO one who enters illegally should EVER Be legal. Period.
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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Maybe instead of the US making Mexico a state....Mexico will just annex the US.

    I vote we give em So Cal? I'll miss Disney but I can't afford it anymore anyway....


    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    Open Borders!
    Immigrants Gone Wild.
    Everyone who can make it in.. gets in
    What a country!.. we were.
    Now there are so many Former Illegals, they have their own Reps, and THEY are the swing vote on Current Illegals.

    Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay - Bloomberg
    By Heidi Przybyla
    Jul 11, 2014 3:29 PM ET


    Photographer: Alex Wong/Getty Images
    U.S. Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-IL) (R) speaks as (L-4th L) Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D-CA),
    Rep. Lucille Roybal-Allard (D-CA), Rep. Rubén Hinojosa (D-TX), and Rep. Albio Sires (D-NJ)
    during a news conference on July 11, 2014 on Capitol Hill in Washington, DC.


    Now Barak can take the 'Middle ground' and let in a million for 'humanitarian reasons'.

    NO Amnesty.
    NO Path to Citizenship
    NO Send/Have your kids here and reunite - trick.

    NO one who enters illegally should EVER Be legal. Period.

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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    NO Amnesty.
    NO Path to Citizenship
    Ok, so if you won't give them amnesty and you won't even provide a reasonable path to citizenship, what exactly are you going to do with the thousands of immigrants that have already crossed the border and have made lives here? I see no viable way of sending them all home without infringing on the 4th amendment and wasting a ton of taxpayer money. You must also keep in mind that you will end up tearing families apart and damaging the lives of those who aren't "legal" but have lived their whole lives here.

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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Maybe instead of the US making Mexico a state....Mexico will just annex the US.

    I vote we give em So Cal? I'll miss Disney but I can't afford it anymore anyway....
    There has actually been a movement for this.

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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Ok, so if you won't give them amnesty and you won't even provide a reasonable path to citizenship, what exactly are you going to do with the thousands of immigrants that have already crossed the border and have made lives here?
    What?
    What's a "reasonable path" for someone here ILLEGALLY?
    Do they have a 'right' to be here just because they got here and some greedy pig hired them?
    Rights in the USA are for USA citizens, not those who snuck in.

    Quote Originally Posted by Telkat
    I see no viable way of sending them all home without infringing on the 4th amendment and wasting a ton of taxpayer money. You must also keep in mind that you will end up tearing families apart and damaging the lives of those who aren't "legal" but have lived their whole lives here.
    All you gotta do is make them present National ID/e-Verify for a job, and penalize employers who break the law by hiring them.
    Don't need to Round em all up.
    They'll just Walk back across.

    That way, we also won't need to pass a Minimum Wage Bill as a True Market wage for menial jobs will Double.
    Right now the whole bottom of the labor pool is being penalized/Warped by their Illegal presence.
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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Why would a 4th Amendment apply to a non citizen?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Ok, so if you won't give them amnesty and you won't even provide a reasonable path to citizenship, what exactly are you going to do with the thousands of immigrants that have already crossed the border and have made lives here? I see no viable way of sending them all home without infringing on the 4th amendment and wasting a ton of taxpayer money. You must also keep in mind that you will end up tearing families apart and damaging the lives of those who aren't "legal" but have lived their whole lives here.

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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    What?
    What's a "reasonable path" for someone here ILLEGALLY?
    Do they have a 'right' to be here just because they got here and some greedy pig hired them?
    Rights in the USA are for USA citizens, not those who snuck in.

    All you gotta do is make them present National ID/e-Verify for a job, and penalize employers who break the law by hiring them.
    Don't need to Round em all up.
    They'll just Walk back across.

    That way, we also won't need to pass a Minimum Wage Bill as a True Market wage for menial jobs will Double.
    Right now the whole bottom of the labor pool is being penalized/Warped by their Illegal presence.

    Heya Mbig. What do we do with those who hire them Individually.....Maids, babysitters, gophers, etc etc, people who give them work and room and board. Kind of like the old indentured servant routine?

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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Mbig. What do we do with those who hire them Individually.....Maids, babysitters, gophers, etc etc, people who give them work and room and board. Kind of like the old indentured servant routine?
    Penalty for hiring an illegal.
    Minimums:
    First offense: $5,000
    Second......... $10,000
    Third............ Fine + Jail.

    That would go for Individuals too.
    Once examples are made, the nonsense will stop.
    If 'your' illegal can get a visa to come, OK.
    If not, tough luck.
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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    Penalty for hiring an illegal.
    Minimums:
    First offense: $5,000
    Second......... $10,000
    Third............ Fine + Jail.

    That would go for Individuals too.
    Once examples are made, the nonsense will stop.
    If 'your' illegal can get a visa to come, OK.
    If not, tough luck.

    Yeah but how would people know.....most aren't up into their neighbors business. I doubt any questions their neighbors if they are or someone living with them is here legally.

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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah but how would people know.....most aren't up into their neighbors business. I doubt any questions their neighbors if they are or someone living with them is here legally.
    They would have to have a NATIONAL ID, if/when challenged to do anything outside a house. To get to work, to live anywhere but work, to get a license, apartment, etc.
    Or all the neighbors would know that the 'Smiths' have a girl in under the Radar.
    Someone tells.
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