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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    Our southren Border has never been locked down. Not in 50 years...not in 500 years.
    Do you and I have a disagreement?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I thought Obama touted himself as "the Great Transformer"? Now we find out that was BS just like the rest of his phony image crap.
    Yep! Americans thought similar with Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter...............it's just not coming. Would be funny if you think the next GOP president will be the one to deliver.
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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    But illegals DO do jobs that Americans don't want to do, here in my neck of the woods is a Tyson chicken processing plant, the neighbouring town is referred to as little Mexico. You'll find no whites employed there save in management. It's very VERY nasty work. This is one example of why I continue to point out, big business IS NOT interested in secure borders, it runs counterintuitive to their interests. Secure borders are counterintuitive to the new world order that is globalisation, it to has no use for borders whatsoever. Funny watching people stick their noses so close to the problem that they fail to see that big picture, and blame our decades old border problem all on Obama. Oh btw, now a days illegals also take jobs that Americans do want to do. They are thick in landscaping, ALL the construction fields, body and mechanic shops, etc.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yep! Americans thought similar with Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter...............it's just not coming. Would be funny if you think the next GOP president will be the one to deliver.
    Not saying he/she will or will not be...I don't have a crystal ball. Do you?
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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    But illegals DO do jobs that Americans don't want to do, here in my neck of the woods is a Tyson chicken processing plant, the neighbouring town is referred to as little Mexico. You'll find no whites employed there save in management. It's very VERY nasty work. This is one example of why I continue to point out, big business IS NOT interested in secure borders, it runs counterintuitive to their interests. Secure borders are counterintuitive to the new world order that is globalisation, it to has no use for borders whatsoever. Funny watching people stick their noses so close to the problem that they fail to see that big picture, and blame our decades old border problem all on Obama. Oh btw, now a days illegals also take jobs that Americans do want to do. They are thick in landscaping, ALL the construction fields, body and mechanic shops, etc.
    I know that is the meme, however, that doesn't make illegal immigration not illegal. A nation without borders isn't a nation.
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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    You said most, back it up, show us this known fact? Your opinion is no fact. I really doubt it. You want to believe what you do to fit your narrative. Prove it. Otherwise state your opinions and leave the facts to people who know them and stop trying to make them up.
    Go to any 7/11 or Home Depot in the South, particularly Texas or California, you will see all the proof you need. I've seen it myself. Dozens of Mexicans standing around waiting for someone to drive by looking for cheap lawnmowers/maids/etc. Even if you manage to successfully implement your authoritarian National ID card and have everyone ask permission from the government to get a job, that will do nothing to deter them from seeking jobs under the table. If anything it will increase the chance of them joining gangs and mafias.

    Not all work is provided by licensed employers, and the unlicensed ones are nearly impossible to track. Your plan will just drive them further "underground" so to speak.

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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    Open Borders!
    Immigrants Gone Wild.
    Everyone who can make it in.. gets in
    What a country!.. we were.
    Now there are so many Former Illegals, they have their own Reps, and THEY are the swing vote on Current Illegals.

    Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay - Bloomberg
    By Heidi Przybyla
    Jul 11, 2014 3:29 PM ET


    Photographer: Alex Wong/Getty Images
    U.S. Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-IL) (R) speaks as (L-4th L) Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D-CA),
    Rep. Lucille Roybal-Allard (D-CA), Rep. Rubén Hinojosa (D-TX), and Rep. Albio Sires (D-NJ)
    during a news conference on July 11, 2014 on Capitol Hill in Washington, DC.


    Now Barak can take the 'Middle ground' and let in a million for 'humanitarian reasons'.

    NO Amnesty.
    NO Path to Citizenship
    NO Send/Have your kids here and reunite - trick.

    NO one who enters illegally should EVER Be legal. Period.
    Yeah I'm sure that is what that 3.7 billion dollars Obama was asking for would be used...

    Every illegal gets 40,000, a green card, housing, medical care, food card etc and a pat on the back and WOULD be consistently reminded that their new found riches are paid for by the DNC.

    The reason why congressmen and woman are not allowed to see these facilities is simple - they're not only kids they're adults too.

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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Not saying he/she will or will not be...I don't have a crystal ball. Do you?
    No, I haven't a crystal ball. However I don't see how that's the tool one needs for this. A very long history of both republican and democratic administrations that have failed to secure our border is enough for me to predict tomorrow.
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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I know that is the meme, however, that doesn't make illegal immigration not illegal. A nation without borders isn't a nation.
    I'm not certain that you understand my point. Did you think I said all that to convey to you that unsecured borders is a good thing, or that illegal immigration is really legal.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    I'm from Chicago and Gutierrez is a total POS racist who lives in Puerto Rico and legislated Chicago nonsense from there.

    How the hell do you legislate from Puerto Rico?

    Gutierrez is a perfect example of how sung these clowns from Chicago are.

    Gutierrez want's to see the US look like Cuba or the USSR...... Yet this POS gets elected every time via progressive vote while he sits in his throne in Puerto Rico.

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