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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Ok, so if you won't give them amnesty and you won't even provide a reasonable path to citizenship, what exactly are you going to do with the thousands of immigrants that have already crossed the border and have made lives here? I see no viable way of sending them all home without infringing on the 4th amendment and wasting a ton of taxpayer money. You must also keep in mind that you will end up tearing families apart and damaging the lives of those who aren't "legal" but have lived their whole lives here.
    Nothing in the Fourth Amendment, nor anywhere else in the Constitution, affirms any right to live here, for anyone who isn't a citizen or a legal immigrant.

    And if being sent back to their own country ruins their lives, then so what? It's their own fault for illegally invading our country in the first place. The consequences are on their own heads, not ours.
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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Isn't it a criminal conspiracy to make an agreement with someone like President Obama to break the law by aiding and abetting criminal behavior and refusing to enforce the laws of the land that says illegal aliens should be tried in court for illegal entry into the USA and sentenced to prison or deported ?
    Given that these are not mere criminals, but foreign invaders, I would say that this meets the Constitutional definition of treason.
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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    are you saying we should take all the immigrants and mexicans that came here illegally, pack them into freight cars, create massive trains and send them on a trip to the mexican border?
    If that's what it takes, why not?
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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    Penalty for hiring an illegal.
    Minimums:
    First offense: $5,000
    Second......... $10,000
    Third............ Fine + Jail.

    That would go for Individuals too.

    Once examples are made, the nonsense will stop.
    If 'your' illegal can get a visa to come, OK.
    If not, tough luck.
    So your argument is really with the illegal enablers, ...small American business owners and contractors who with a nod and a wink hire under the table.
    I tend to agree.
    If there are no illegal employers , illegal immigrants will not come.

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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    are you saying we should take all the immigrants and mexicans that came here illegally, pack them into freight cars, create massive trains and send them on a trip to the mexican border?
    That college education you're getting is finally starting to paying off.

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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    So your argument is really with the illegal enablers, ...small American business owners and contractors who with a nod and a wink hire under the table.
    I tend to agree.
    If there are no illegal employers , illegal immigrants will not come.
    No, that's unfortunately not true at this point. But seriously, have you seen anyone here arguing that employers be let off the hook in this?

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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Nothing in the Fourth Amendment, nor anywhere else in the Constitution, affirms any right to live here, for anyone who isn't a citizen or a legal immigrant.

    And if being sent back to their own country ruins their lives, then so what? It's their own fault for illegally invading our country in the first place. The consequences are on their own heads, not ours.


    Everyone on the Mayflower was an illegal immigrant.......the best protest sign that I've seen yet...

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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Isn't it a criminal conspiracy to make an agreement with someone like President Obama to break the law by aiding and abetting criminal behavior and refusing to enforce the laws of the land that says illegal aliens should be tried in court for illegal entry into the USA and sentenced to prison or deported ?


    President Obama has deported more illegals than any other president...

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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    What about humanitarianism toward the American people? It's disgusting that the bleeding heart Liberals don't give a damn about Americans.

    We don't owe the immigrants a damn thing. They and their huge dependent families should all be deported along with all the Mexicans that arrived in the past thirty years.

    Americans were never allowed to vote on whether we wanted them here in culture destroying numbers so they're all here illegally. How would we treat anyone else that attempted to colonize our country and destroy our culture?



    How did the Native Americans treat those who colonized their country and destroyed their culture?

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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    Everyone on the Mayflower was an illegal immigrant.......the best protest sign that I've seen yet...
    That is simply not true.

    At the time the Mayflower arrived, there was no established nation on this continent, and no set of laws regarding who could settle here. It was a large mass of land, only very sparsely inhabited by random tribes of savages here and there.

    It took the arrival of many shipfulls of settlers from Europe to create a nation here, such that there could possibly be any laws regarding any further immigration.
    The five great lies of the Left Wrong:
    We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.

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