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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

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    Not as much....how much?
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    You have no clue of the logistics of your rhetoric...it is simplistic thinking at best.
    By FAR the cheapest solution is to simply make it known that without National ID they Cannot get a Job and will Never get citizenship.
    Less than one year's enforcement would solve the problem permanently.. as opposed to 2000+ miles of fence and Tens of thousands of Border guards in perpetuity.
    I suspect, in a matter of months after the law's announcement, Millions would Walk back across the border with virtually no enforcement even necessary.

    All your replies are Nonsensical, Gratuitous, and OBTUSE protestation.
    and have been answered several times.
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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Isn't it a criminal conspiracy to make an agreement with someone like President Obama to break the law by aiding and abetting criminal behavior and refusing to enforce the laws of the land that says illegal aliens should be tried in court for illegal entry into the USA and sentenced to prison or deported ?

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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Proof? Nice claim but let's see your evidence.


    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Most immigrants don't work for licensed employers anyway. Many mow lawns, clean houses, or do random odd-jobs for cash.

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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Proof? Nice claim but let's see your evidence.
    Evidence for what? It's a known fact.

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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

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    There has actually been a movement for this.

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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    What about humanitarianism toward the American people? It's disgusting that the bleeding heart Liberals don't give a damn about Americans.

    We don't owe the immigrants a damn thing. They and their huge dependent families should all be deported along with all the Mexicans that arrived in the past thirty years.

    Americans were never allowed to vote on whether we wanted them here in culture destroying numbers so they're all here illegally. How would we treat anyone else that attempted to colonize our country and destroy our culture?
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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post

    Most immigrants don't work for licensed employers anyway. Many mow lawns, clean houses, or do random Odd-jobs for Cash.
    Your 'defense' for immigration is that they work for Cash...

    and so um... pay NO Taxes, Send a good part of that money to Mexico, Enroll their many children in our schools (EXpensive), get on welfare roles/Food stamps/etc, get Free emergency room care....

    and ergo, are GIANT Net losers for the economy.

    I feel so much better now!
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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    What about humanitarianism toward the American people?

    We don't owe the immigrants a damn thing. They and their huge dependent families should all be deported along with all the Mexicans that arrived in the past thirty years.

    Americans were never allowed to vote on whether we wanted them here in culture destroying numbers so they're all here illegally. How would we treat anyone else that attempted to colonize our country and destroy our culture?
    are you saying we should take all the immigrants and mexicans that came here illegally, pack them into freight cars, create massive trains and send them on a trip to the mexican border?
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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    are you saying we should take all the immigrants and mexicans that came here illegally, pack them into freight cars, create massive trains and send them on a trip to the mexican border?
    Nonsense. Do keep in mind, however, that they're criminals.

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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Ok, so if you won't give them amnesty and you won't even provide a reasonable path to citizenship, what exactly are you going to do with the thousands of immigrants that have already crossed the border and have made lives here? I see no viable way of sending them all home without infringing on the 4th amendment and wasting a ton of taxpayer money. You must also keep in mind that you will end up tearing families apart and damaging the lives of those who aren't "legal" but have lived their whole lives here.
    C'mon. That's been covered a thousand times already here in many recent threads. All the lame excuses and strawmen for allowing them to stay have been covered and countered. I'll admit, the 4th amendment argument is novel but not at all correct and asset forfeiture is a proven tool.

    WE won't be tearing anything apart, that is all the illegals' doing. They made this choice. When you go to arrest the criminals, their family suffers.

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