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    Re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

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    Re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
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    The people who lived in these towns lived in the Great Lakes area. They decorated some of their clothes with shells that were traded from...

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    ...the people who lived in towns like these, on the West Coast.
    Depending on who you believe, the population of North America pre-Columbus was between 5,000,000 and 18,000,000. When Captain Cook first landed on the shore of British Columbia, most of the sailors in his ships could only dream of living as well as the Natives they encountered.
    If your schools told you that Natives were thinly scattered groups of savages, you were lied to.
    There's not much evidence of millions of Natives in those photos and it also seems that if it was so good the foreigners would have adapted to their lifestyles.

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    Re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    You lack imagination.

    I do not care that they have made their lives here. Send them back to their home countries or drop them in the ocean and let them make their lives there.

    We owe them nothing. They are invaders and they need to be treated as invaders. Round them up and drop them off at the border. Kill them if they try to return.
    It seems clear that the Honduran's, etc,, have to get their own house in order. That's where the faults lie.

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    Re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    There's not much evidence of millions of Natives in those photos
    So you want a picture of each one?

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    and it also seems that if it was so good the foreigners would have adapted to their lifestyles.
    Seriously? You expect Europeans of that era to 'adapt to their lifestyles'? The Native's paganism alone qualified them for racial-cleansing genocide. There were villages here, in British Columbia, of a few hundreds that supported artists, men who didn't hunt or fish because their only job was art. There's cities of thousands here now that can't support the arts. The Natives in the East taught the white settlers what to grow and how and enabled the first settlements to survive.
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    Re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Your hilarious!!!! Probably the most non American, pro American poster here. 200 years, what a F,ing joke.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Where the hell is G from. Sometimes one has just got to laugh, just laugh.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    It's possible he's not that obtuse, that he's doing it on purpose to rattle your chain. Either way, I don't see a happy ending here...
    Thanks GM, I feel better now. You know, he's on the bottom rung so it really is a matter of upper IQ.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    So you want a picture of each one?
    The real question is why you posted those photos at all. Were they to represent millions of Native Americans or to show that there are Indian villages?
    Seriously? You expect Europeans of that era to 'adapt to their lifestyles'?
    Didn't you claim that "When Captain Cook first landed on the shore of British Columbia, most of the sailors in his ships could only dream of living as well as the Natives they encountered". Why would they not, like Paul Gauguin, adapt?
    The Native's paganism alone qualified them for racial-cleansing genocide.
    Only according to you.
    There were villages here, in British Columbia, of a few hundreds that supported artists, men who didn't hunt or fish because their only job was art.
    Then it's clear they had time to invent the wheel. Perhaps it's time you cited some evidence.

    There's cities of thousands here now that can't support the arts.
    Which city, or cities, is that?

    The Natives in the East taught the white settlers what to grow and how and enabled the first settlements to survive.
    That's the first truthful thing you've said.

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    Re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    "I do not care that they have made their lives here. Send them back to their home countries or drop them in the ocean and let them make their lives there.

    We owe them nothing. They are invaders and they need to be treated as invaders. Round them up and drop them off at the border. Kill them if they try to return."

    Send the whole family home or drop the whole family in the ocean. Invaders are not welcome. The new ones need to be repelled. The older ones need to be rooted out and deported.

    I would do it because it is the right thing to do. America belongs to its citizens not to illegal aliens. It is time to behave like a sovereign nation and take control of our country again.
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    At least he is using the bible to support what he is saying. Jesus said "Suffer the little children", and damn it, come hell or high water, he's going to make them suffer.
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