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Thread: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

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    Re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    You'll have to ask someone on the left of the political spectrum. Communist Part USA (CPUSA) and it's splinter groups are always the first to denounce border security and immigration laws being enforced.
    Yeah right - communists wouldn't tolerate illegal immigration - not that any logical individual wants to live in such hell anyways - no, the communists purge and cull.

    No country would tolerate illegal immigration except for the United States and only because progressives love it...... Progressives should be deported along with the illegals in my opinion. Their politics are treasonous.

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    Re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    You'll have to ask someone on the left of the political spectrum. Communist Part USA (CPUSA) and it's splinter groups are always the first to denounce border security and immigration laws being enforced.

    They're not communists - they're epic idiots..... They're anarchistic totalitarians (if that makes any sense) - think children - their ideal society is lord of the flies.

    They're sociopaths who want to look normal. You can clearly see this when they are all loving and caring but these clowns would be the last ones in the world to sponsor a Mexican/South American family..... They only give a **** when it's not their money or job that is on the line.

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    Re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    True, but there is more to it than just a President saying he want's this done. So much today is polarized that anything, even if it is what we want to see done, will likely be held by one side or another as a leverage tool for something any particular politician wants him/herself. This is not helped when a President tries to constantly play the whining card, or the race card, and demonize his opponents.

    We all know what has to be done, and how to get there. Giant "comprehensive" laws are horrible, and nearly unimplementable. So we need to get back to basics. When you have a leaky roof, you don't mop the floor until you fix the roof, and you certainly don't burn the house down to fix the roof.



    Then we likely have a semblance of agreement. The rhetoric that the illegals do the jobs that American's won't do, while had some merit before 2008, today is nearly out the window with so many out of work, or out of the workforce. This will come to a head. There IMHO, will come a time when all of this extended unemployment, welfare, and disability dole will have to be culled. At that time the backlash against these so called people doing jobs American's won't do will fly right out the window.
    Come on j, "only had merit before 2008", is giving cover to Bush. It's had merit for a couple of decades. By Bush's presidency, illegal immigrants in the work place had already gone far beyond just the work that Americans don't want to do! Bush was wrong about that.
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    Re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Yeah right - communists wouldn't tolerate illegal immigration - not that any logical individual wants to live in such hell anyways - no, the communists purge and cull.

    No country would tolerate illegal immigration except for the United States and only because progressives love it...... Progressives should be deported along with the illegals in my opinion. Their politics are treasonous.
    Start with A*N*S*W*E*R* Coalition and start working your way back. A*N*S*W*E*R* is a splinter group of The Party for Socialism and Liberation (PSL) which is a splinter group of Communist Party USA (CPUSA)

    A*N*S*W*E*R* Coalition was the organizer behind most of the pro open borders and pro amnesty demonstrations that you see usually around May 1st of every year.

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    Re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    They're not communists - they're epic idiots..... They're anarchistic totalitarians (if that makes any sense) - think children - their ideal society is lord of the flies.

    They're sociopaths who want to look normal. You can clearly see this when they are all loving and caring but these clowns would be the last ones in the world to sponsor a Mexican/South American family..... They only give a **** when it's not their money or job that is on the line.
    CPUSA isn't the same CPUSA of thirty years ago. From the early 1920's to the late 1980's CPUSA always got their orders directly from the Kremlin. Today they seem to be no different than progressives probably because today's progressives aren't really progressives but something else hiding behind the progressive label.

    It's true progressives who call for strict immigration policies and would meet the definition of being nativist like T. Roosevelt, Woodward Wilson, Dillingham, Bellamy.

    Did you watch the CPUSA convention last week or was it three weeks ago on C-Span ? Their platform seems to be a cut and copy of the Democrat Party.

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    Re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    They're anarchistic totalitarians

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    Re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    NO AMNESTY - EVER. Immediate deportation is the only option.
    What about the border...it's a sieve right now.

    And how do you plan to round up all these illegals? The government has tried for years and done pretty badly at it.
    At least under my idea, many of those illegals would become tax paying citizens. Presently, they lower wages for all Americans and pay ZERO income taxes...all while putting burdens on healthcare and other government services.

    So what is your grand plan for solving the illegal alien problem?
    (I feel I am going to regret asking that)


    Btw...you do realize that many, many businesses love illegal aliens and do not support government efforts to curtail them and support/lobby politicians to allow the status quo to continue?
    Last edited by DA60; 07-13-14 at 07:02 PM.

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    Re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    What about the border...it's a sieve right now.

    And how do you plan to round up all these illegals?
    The government has tried for years and done pretty badly at it.
    At least under my idea, many of those illegals would become tax paying citizens. Presently, they lower wages for all Americans and pay ZERO income taxes...all while putting burdens on healthcare and other government services.
    So what is your grand plan for solving the illegal alien problem?
    (I feel I am going to regret asking that)
    Btw...you do realize that many, many businesses love illegal aliens and do not support government efforts to curtail them and support/lobby politicians to allow the status quo to continue?
    Again with the Fallacious BS.

    I've answered it several times.
    Pass a law making the hiring of illegals.. Illegal.
    BIG Fines and Jail.
    Job applicants must have National ID/e-Verify.

    No Jobs, No illegal incentive to come or stay
    .
    Guaranteed poverty.
    You don't have to "round them all up", the Greatest Lie ever told, and I answered it throughout this string.
    In fact, you could get rid of most of the border guards.

    Got it yet?
    Last edited by mbig; 07-13-14 at 07:33 PM.
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    Re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    Again with the Fallacious BS.

    I've answered it several times.
    Pass a law making the hiring of illegals.. Illegal.
    BIG Fines and Jail.
    Job applicants must have National ID/e-Verify.

    No Jobs, No illegal incentive to come or stay
    .
    Guaranteed poverty.
    You don't have to "round them all up", the Greatest Lie ever told, and I answered it throughout this string.
    In fact, you could get rid of most of the border guards.

    Got it yet?
    Lol...I wasn't talking to you.

    Got it yet?

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    Re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Lol...I wasn't talking to you.

    Got it yet?
    What does it matter WHO you were talking to?
    THIS is a PUBLIC Message Board for ALL participants.
    You're saying having False BS getting destroyed by anyone but who you quoted doesn't count?

    "Unfair"?
    Hard to believe you would try such a Childish rejection of the truth.

    This is 'My' String no less, and I can't participate!
    In any case, you are now Answered and Refuted.
    Last edited by mbig; 07-13-14 at 07:53 PM.
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