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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    So now we have given up defending your old opinion and started a new one. Nice deflection, but your opinion is still just that and not all gun laws have increased gun crime. Gun violence in CA is down, and the laws sure are not. Oh....guess what there is something called a fact...look it up....in fact you should look up your opinions before touting them. I'm sure you are a smart person but touting opinions as facts doesn't make you look very smart at all.


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    I don't think you are willing to accept the fact that actions have consequences. You can't just write a law and expect everything to be sunshine and rainbows from there. Laws always have unintended consequences. Gun laws raise violent crime. Drug laws make drugs more potent. Banning certain groups of people from getting employment from licensed employers will result in those groups seeking unlicensed employment. Just a basic fact, and you don't need some bullsh*t biased poll/survey/whatever to back it up. Regulation spawns black markets. Fact of life.

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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    The same way President Esienhower did it with "Operation Wet Back."

    First you put someone with real military experiance in charge, why Obama appoints unqualified and incompetent people and put them in charge of our national security and our borders who have no military experiance and law enforcement experiance is a disator waiting to happen. (I think we are already seeing it happening.)

    The Esienhower administration was able to round up one million illegal aliens in just one year and it didn't cost the tax payers jack ****. Bull **** was a dollar a bag back then.

    Because of the round up of illegal aliens, millions of illegal aliens got smart real quick and packed up and went back to Mexico.
    This is how almost every country in the world operates, it's normal, but in the US it's seen as inhumane and revolutionary.

    Every country protects its its borders and doesn't allow illegals to work, otherwise you don't have a country. Why should the USA be any different from everywhere else?

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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    because we liberals are afraid of our country being portrayed as inhuman if during the deportation of hundreds of thousands and millions of people, ]
    You liberals are always afraid of something.

    Back on September 11th, 2001 you liberals stopped despising those who wore the uniform and yelled "Mr.President Bush save us, please Mr. soldier, protect us."

    America is being pussified by liberal/progressives. We are becoming a nation of lefty pussies.

    Hey Unitedwestand, you're majoring in history, has your liberal history professor taught you what happens when you look like a pussy, walk like a pussy and talk like a pussy ? There's always someone in the world who's not a pussy and will walk all over you after beating your pussy to a pulp.

    Just south of America there's a nation that has always been full of pussies. Some of them run away from their problems running towards El Norte but all they do is bring their problems with them. They ended up becoming America's problems.

    Back during the late 1800's it was really out of control and the pussies decided to give the banditos a gun and badge to police the banditos. They were called "Ruralalities." They also did the same with the Yaqui's around the same time.

    May explain why Mexican law enforcement is so corrupt today.

    I predict soon the Mexican cartels will be given a badge. They already have the guns.

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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    This is how almost every country in the world operates, it's normal, but in the US it's seen as inhumane and revolutionary.

    Every country protects its its borders and doesn't allow illegals to work, otherwise you don't have a country. Why should the USA be any different from everywhere else?
    You'll have to ask someone on the left of the political spectrum. Communist Part USA (CPUSA) and it's splinter groups are always the first to denounce border security and immigration laws being enforced.

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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Hey Unitedwestand, you're majoring in history, has your liberal history professor taught you what happens when you look like a pussy, walk like a pussy and talk like a pussy ? There's always someone in the world who's not a pussy and will walk all over you after beating your pussy to a pulp.
    Pussies get ****ed.

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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    You'll have to ask someone on the left of the political spectrum. Communist Part USA (CPUSA) and it's splinter groups are always the first to denounce border security and immigration laws being enforced.
    Communists in Congress? Just count ‘em Interesting read, but probably not reviewed in the NYTimes.

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    re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    You liberals are always afraid of something.

    Back on September 11th, 2001 you liberals stopped despising those who wore the uniform and yelled "Mr.President Bush save us, please Mr. soldier, protect us."

    America is being pussified by liberal/progressives. We are becoming a nation of lefty pussies.

    Hey Unitedwestand, you're majoring in history, has your liberal history professor taught you what happens when you look like a pussy, walk like a pussy and talk like a pussy ? There's always someone in the world who's not a pussy and will walk all over you after beating your pussy to a pulp.

    Just south of America there's a nation that has always been full of pussies. Some of them run away from their problems running towards El Norte but all they do is bring their problems with them. They ended up becoming America's problems.

    Back during the late 1800's it was really out of control and the pussies decided to give the banditos a gun and badge to police the banditos. They were called "Ruralalities." They also did the same with the Yaqui's around the same time.

    May explain why Mexican law enforcement is so corrupt today.

    I predict soon the Mexican cartels will be given a badge. They already have the guns.
    apache you know what the us millitary can do.

    Eliminate the cartels and gangs that are the source of the problem

    create a special task force, delegate it to Mexico, Guatemala, el Salvador, or Honduras. offer these countries the use of this task force and have u.s soldiers act as peace keepers.

    or better yet, eliminate the columbian cartels who are at the root of this crime ring.

    that is the only application of US millitary force i would approve of using.
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    Re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    apache you know what the us millitary can do.

    Eliminate the cartels and gangs that are the source of the problem

    create a special task force, delegate it to Mexico, Guatemala, el Salvador, or Honduras. offer these countries the use of this task force and have u.s soldiers act as peace keepers.

    or better yet, eliminate the columbian cartels who are at the root of this crime ring.

    that is the only application of US millitary force i would approve of using.
    There is no reason why these governments can't do this for themselves, though with outside training and equipment. Just the threat of cutting of aid programs might spur some action. But first there has to be the will to change.

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    Re: Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    So now we have given up defending your old opinion and started a new one. Nice deflection, but your opinion is still just that and not all gun laws have increased gun crime. Gun violence in CA is down, and the laws sure are not. Oh....guess what there is something called a fact...look it up....in fact you should look up your opinions before touting them. I'm sure you are a smart person but touting opinions as facts doesn't make you look very smart at all.
    Im a Californian and can vouch for this.

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