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    Re: Ride-Sharing Service Lyft Defies New York City, State Regulators

    My God - I've seen situations where the taxi driver's often involved in a fleeing scene where they break all sorts of laws to get away, or hot pursuit where they're trying to get the bad guy. Oddly, police NEVER seem to be involved.

    It's like - so accurately portrayed in everyone movie I've watched.
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    Re: Ride-Sharing Service Lyft Defies New York City, State Regulators

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Except it only takes once for it to be about safety, and that once already happened.

    My Uber driver kidnapped me! | New York Post
    Yes, but that's not a consideration for the regulatikn, it's just a convenient story for when regulation does co.e up as conversation. There's nothing that says a regulated taxi driver wouldn't kidnap all the same as well, so it's specious at best.

    Not that it mans regulation is fundamentally wrong or cannot serve a purpose. But money and turf are the real reasons behind restricted regulation.
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    Re: Ride-Sharing Service Lyft Defies New York City, State Regulators

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yes, but that's not a consideration for the regulatikn, it's just a convenient story for when regulation does co.e up as conversation. There's nothing that says a regulated taxi driver wouldn't kidnap all the same as well, so it's specious at best.

    Not that it mans regulation is fundamentally wrong or cannot serve a purpose. But money and turf are the real reasons behind restricted regulation.
    True a taxi might, however, since they are heavily screened for driving and drug and criminal issues, you're less likely to get into a cab with a driver who feels the need to flee the police. Again, I've never read nor heard about a legitimately similar behavior from a registered taxi.
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    Re: Ride-Sharing Service Lyft Defies New York City, State Regulators

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    Here we go again:



    "Suggested donation." Once again, old guard establishment interests run headlong into the iPhone. New York says this is about public safety, but whom are they kidding?
    This is about what it always is about: money and turf.



    My guess is that money and turf will win, and outsiders will lose.

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    Re: Ride-Sharing Service Lyft Defies New York City, State Regulators

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    Here we go again:



    "Suggested donation." Once again, old guard establishment interests run headlong into the iPhone. New York says this is about public safety, but whom are they kidding? This is about what it always is about: money and turf.
    Actually it is far more than money... it is about safety. Personally I would never use Uber or similar services anywhere in the world, since I have no clue who I am getting into the car with.. As far as I see it, Uber does nothing to vet these drivers.

    Now saying that, the taxi companies SHOULD adopt the technical aspect of the system. The thing about Uber is the app and ease of the app.. combine that with a vetted driver and maintained car... and you have a winner. No more calling the taxi company saying where you are.. just plot it in on Google maps, and viola the taxi can find you.
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    Re: Ride-Sharing Service Lyft Defies New York City, State Regulators

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    My guess is that money and turf will win, and outsiders will lose.
    I agree and am reminded of the recent AereoTV ruling.
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    Re: Ride-Sharing Service Lyft Defies New York City, State Regulators

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    True a taxi might, however, since they are heavily screened for driving and drug and criminal issues, you're less likely to get into a cab with a driver who feels the need to flee the police. Again, I've never read nor heard about a legitimately similar behavior from a registered taxi.
    I've never specifically looked, but I would be awfully surprised if that number were zero. Though taxi cab drivers are crazy mothers, hell one in NYC just last year cost a women her legs because he got pissed at a bicyclist. So again, no guarantee.

    I think that regulation at base is fine and can be warranted, but the regulation must be fair and allow competition. The degree to which they restrict licenses for cabs and such are meant only to prevent proper competition and realizing what the market can support.
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    Re: Ride-Sharing Service Lyft Defies New York City, State Regulators

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I've never specifically looked, but I would be awfully surprised if that number were zero. Though taxi cab drivers are crazy mothers, hell one in NYC just last year cost a women her legs because he got pissed at a bicyclist. So again, no guarantee.

    I think that regulation at base is fine and can be warranted, but the regulation must be fair and allow competition. The degree to which they restrict licenses for cabs and such are meant only to prevent proper competition and realizing what the market can support.
    Sorry Ikari, if you believe "are meant only to prevent proper competition," then you're not worthy of further debate on this topic.
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    Re: Ride-Sharing Service Lyft Defies New York City, State Regulators

    If you are worried about the safety, dont use the service. If you are not worried about the safety, then use the service.

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    Re: Ride-Sharing Service Lyft Defies New York City, State Regulators

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Sorry Ikari, if you believe "are meant only to prevent proper competition," then you're not worthy of further debate on this topic.
    I believe that the degree to which they restrict licenses for cabs is meant to prevent proper competition. It artificially lowers the number of cabs in a market that could support more. If you think that's not "worthy of further debate", so be it. But if that dismissive statement is all you can muster, then ignorant deflection is ignorant deflection and you're free to move along.
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