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    Re: Plans for homeless village in Redding California moving forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I think it means that treating the medical needs of the homeless outside of the emergency rooms and providing shelter in lieu of prison is less expensive.
    I don't see how you can get that out of the article.

    ...it would be smarter -- and more humane -- to spend $11K/year each to house 17 chronically homeless people and provide them with social workers than it would be to waste the average of $16,670/year per person to imprison them and treat them at emergency rooms.
    Seems pretty clear to me. But hey...liberals are known to misinterpret what they read and hear.
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    Re: Plans for homeless village in Redding California moving forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I don't see how you can get that out of the article.
    The article said the government did a study....

    "... In 2005, Utah did a study that found the average annual cost for emergency services and jail time for each chronically homeless person was $16,670. The cost to house them and provide case management services was only $11,000 per person...."


    Seems pretty clear to me. But hey...liberals are known to misinterpret what they read and hear.
    So are conservatives.

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    Re: Plans for homeless village in Redding California moving forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    The article said the government did a study....

    "... In 2005, Utah did a study that found the average annual cost for emergency services and jail time for each chronically homeless person was $16,670. The cost to house them and provide case management services was only $11,000 per person...."
    Again...pretty clear. Emergency medical care and prison/housing and case manager. My question still stands: What about medical services when they are provided the housing and case management? Or do they think that, somehow, those homeless people won't need medical care if they are provided a house to live in instead of being put in prison?

    So are conservatives.
    If you say so...
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    Re: Plans for homeless village in Redding California moving forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I don't see how you can get that out of the article.



    Seems pretty clear to me. But hey...liberals are known to misinterpret what they read and hear.
    Exposure, beatings, that kind of thing.
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    Re: Plans for homeless village in Redding California moving forward

    Back in the day I hitchhiked from Sacramento to Ashland. Got stuck in Redding for two days. End of July. Never again, cruel and unusual punishment.

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    Re: Plans for homeless village in Redding California moving forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    How do you know so much about horses..
    .Europe doesn't have horses, do they?



    Lots of them.

    How do you suppose some people here plow their fields and get around?

    As side benefits they provide fertilizer and don't use oil.

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    Re: Plans for homeless village in Redding California moving forward

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Lots of them.

    How do you suppose some people here plow their fields and get around?

    As side benefits they provide fertilizer and don't use oil.
    Not to mention running down the deadly fox.

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    Re: Plans for homeless village in Redding California moving forward

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Not to mention running down the deadly fox.



    Exactly, and getting the Queen of England around.

    Plus putting money in a lot of bookies pockets.

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    Re: Plans for homeless village in Redding California moving forward

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Exposure, beatings, that kind of thing.
    I worked back east where a case of exposure could probably cost tens or hundreds of thousands. These folks aren't just in need of a warm blanket, they can require ER and ICU care and hospitalization to boot. And if there was a little ethylene glycol ingestion (antifreeze) that number could go way way .


    The idea sounds interesting. They invite people in that will end up with a place to live with a set of expectations and structure. Have them live in a healthier environment and learn to live with others in a more functional way. It could work for some pretty well.

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    Re: Plans for homeless village in Redding California moving forward

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Back in the day I hitchhiked from Sacramento to Ashland. Got stuck in Redding for two days. End of July. Never again, cruel and unusual punishment.
    I have a good friend who lives in Redding. She utterly detests that town.
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