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    Re: Plans for homeless village in Redding California moving forward

    This is all fine and dandy...except for the question of who is going to pay for it.
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    Re: Plans for homeless village in Redding California moving forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    This is all fine and dandy...except for the question of who is going to pay for it.
    It's always about dollars and cents with some people.
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    Re: Plans for homeless village in Redding California moving forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    It's always about dollars and cents with some people.
    Sure. Especially if one is talking about public dollars and cents.
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    Re: Plans for homeless village in Redding California moving forward

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I do believe that we need to do a lot more to help homeless people.

    I also believe that no matter what we do there will always be some homeless people on this planet.
    You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Plans for homeless village in Redding California moving forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    It's always about dollars and cents with some people.
    Especially when it's MY money.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Plans for homeless village in Redding California moving forward

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.



    Horses aren't always thirsty and some would rather drink from a certain spring where the water's fresh and clear, because no one has got around to mucking it up yet.
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    Re: Plans for homeless village in Redding California moving forward

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Horses aren't always thirsty and some would rather drink from a certain spring where the water's fresh and clear, because no one has got around to mucking it up yet.
    How do you know so much about horses...Europe doesn't have horses, do they?
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    Re: Plans for homeless village in Redding California moving forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    This is all fine and dandy...except for the question of who is going to pay for it.

    Providing housing for the homeless saves taxpayers money.....and it's more humane.....


    "...A program in Salt Lake City decided that it would be smarter -- and more humane -- to spend $11K/year each to house 17 chronically homeless people and provide them with social workers than it would be to waste the average of $16,670/year per person to imprison them and treat them at emergency rooms. As Nation of Change points out, this commonsense, humane and economically sound way of dealing with homelessness works, unlike the savage approaches taken by other cities (like the Waikiki rep Tom Bowker who smashed homeless peoples' carts with a sledgehammer, or cities like Tampa, which banned feeding homeless people)......"

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    Re: Plans for homeless village in Redding California moving forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Providing housing for the homeless saves taxpayers money.....and it's more humane.....


    "...A program in Salt Lake City decided that it would be smarter -- and more humane -- to spend $11K/year each to house 17 chronically homeless people and provide them with social workers than it would be to waste the average of $16,670/year per person to imprison them and treat them at emergency rooms. As Nation of Change points out, this commonsense, humane and economically sound way of dealing with homelessness works, unlike the savage approaches taken by other cities (like the Waikiki rep Tom Bowker who smashed homeless peoples' carts with a sledgehammer, or cities like Tampa, which banned feeding homeless people)......"

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    So...from what I understand from the article, Utah exchanges prison and emergency medical care for a place to live and a social worker. Does that mean they STILL provide emergency medical care...but neglect to count that number again?

    Just wondering.
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    Re: Plans for homeless village in Redding California moving forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    So...from what I understand from the article, Utah exchanges prison and emergency medical care for a place to live and a social worker. Does that mean they STILL provide emergency medical care...but neglect to count that number again?

    Just wondering.
    I think it means that treating the medical needs of the homeless outside of the emergency rooms and providing shelter in lieu of prison is less expensive.

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