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    Re: APNewsBreak: No 'Stand Down' Order in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Thats a dictionary website, not a military handbook. Please show me the official military source which details those specific words are to be used. And how saying "remain in place" to a unit about to leave is not the exact same thing. I have to see any official documentation, just testimony. The people there say they were told to stand down, and officers say they werent.
    The team in Tripoli (I assume they are 'the people' above) requested to fly to Benghazi. Military personnel whose job it is to make those decisions decided they should 'remain in place.' If you want to call that a 'stand down order' that's fine, but there is no actual dispute about what happened. They wanted to go, their superiors said NO. There is much testimony by 'officer' or those investigating the incident based on timelines and testimony from those decision makers about WHY they were told to remain in Tripoli (or 'stand down' if you prefer). So I'm not sure what the dispute is.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: No 'Stand Down' Order in Benghazi

    So, who gave the marching order?
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    Re: APNewsBreak: No 'Stand Down' Order in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, who gave the marching order?
    Who gave what marching order?

    And why do you care? Is there any evidence some unnamed 'marching order' was even in 20-20 hindsight incorrect? If this marching order was the one that had the team in Tripoli not get on a flight to Benghazi, pass a plane with evacuees on its way to Tripoli where they just left, and arrive after the annex had been evacuated, the fighting over etc, then all the testimony is the marching order was given by the normal chain of command, and correctly so.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: No 'Stand Down' Order in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    There wasn't anything directly in your post worthy of a response...hence the "seriously"....You are continuously digging for something that isn't there. Why do you think you always come up empty handed time after time?
    So you think the admistrations actions in terms of security both before and after the attack were justified ?

    After a 12 foot hole was blown in the Embassy wall, after numerous and ignored request for more Security by Chris Stevens, after every other Nation AND the Red Cross bailed out because of the worsening Security situation you would have done the same thing ?

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    Re: APNewsBreak: No 'Stand Down' Order in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Who gave what marching order?

    And why do you care? Is there any evidence some unnamed 'marching order' was even in 20-20 hindsight incorrect? If this marching order was the one that had the team in Tripoli not get on a flight to Benghazi, pass a plane with evacuees on its way to Tripoli where they just left, and arrive after the annex had been evacuated, the fighting over etc, then all the testimony is the marching order was given by the normal chain of command, and correctly so.
    Hindsight ?

    They blew a 12 foot hole in the Embassy wall 2 weeks BEFORE the attack.

    Every other Nation AND the Red Cross bailed out because of the worsening Security situation BEFORE the attack.

    Chris Stevens repeatedly asked for more Security BEFORE the attack.

    You're not doing Hillary Clinton any favors here.

    She didn't even have the intelligence or qualifications to have the assets off-site just in case there was a attack.

    She didn't even have a plan in place for a immediate rescue in case the Embassy was attacked.

    Her only PLAN centered around the creation of a huge false narrative about a Internet video so she could politicize the deaths of four dead Americans

    Thats the dereliction.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: No 'Stand Down' Order in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    This is also the only thing they can come up with against Hilary.
    actually no hillary is like obama in a way she has nothing to run on and really has done nothing of note.
    if democrats decide to run her i will be disappointed. the fact that you can't find someone else to run is even worse.

    at least the republican party has several people out there already that have a good chance.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: No 'Stand Down' Order in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Hindsight ?

    They blew a 12 foot hole in the Embassy wall 2 weeks BEFORE the attack.

    Every other Nation AND the Red Cross bailed out because of the worsening Security situation BEFORE the attack.

    Chris Stevens repeatedly asked for more Security BEFORE the attack.

    You're not doing Hillary Clinton any favors here.

    She didn't even have the intelligence or qualifications to have the assets off-site just in case there was a attack.

    She didn't even have a plan in place for a immediate rescue in case the Embassy was attacked.

    Her only PLAN centered around the creation of a huge false narrative about a Internet video so she could politicize the deaths of four dead Americans

    Thats the dereliction.
    OK, so you're talking about a different "marching order" I assume that has nothing to do with the so-called 'stand down' order.

    It's why I asked, because I can't tell what the person was talking about.

    And I'm sorry, but right wingers whinging about democrats "politicizing the deaths of four dead Americans" just disqualifies you. Romney put out a statement condemning the Obama admin while the bodies were still warm, and the GOP has held non-stop hearings on this for two years. Give me a break.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: No 'Stand Down' Order in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    So you think the admistrations actions in terms of security both before and after the attack were justified ?

    After a 12 foot hole was blown in the Embassy wall, after numerous and ignored request for more Security by Chris Stevens, after every other Nation AND the Red Cross bailed out because of the worsening Security situation you would have done the same thing ?
    Certainly mistakes were made and the results were tragic.....but there is a big difference between the hyperpartisan feigned outrage conspiracy theories and what in hindsight should have been handled better.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: APNewsBreak: No 'Stand Down' Order in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    at least the republican party has several people out there already that have a good chance.
    LOL.....who? This is shaping up to be the sorriest lot of GOP contenders that I have personally seen in my lifetime. With the exception of Christie...there is no one in the lot that even stands a shot of getting elected. Cruz? (Mr. Green Eggs and Ham....you have to be kidding), Jeb Bush? (GWB blew any shot his brother had of getting elected), Rubio? Perry? Paul?....Even Palin would have a better shot of getting elected.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: APNewsBreak: No 'Stand Down' Order in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL.....who? This is shaping up to be the sorriest lot of GOP contenders that I have personally seen in my lifetime. With the exception of Christie...there is no one in the lot that even stands a shot of getting elected. Cruz? (Mr. Green Eggs and Ham....you have to be kidding), Jeb Bush? (GWB blew any shot his brother had of getting elected), Rubio? Perry? Paul?....Even Palin would have a better shot of getting elected.
    lol all you are running is clinton and you have the gull to say we have no one?
    that is rich myopic view is myopic.

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