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    Re: APNewsBreak: No 'Stand Down' Order in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    And it has nothing to do with the fact that there was no stand down order. Stick to the topic, Grant.
    It is clear this neglect of the military follows a pattern of behavior by the Obama Administration. Celebrating the release of an AWOL soldier while releasing terrorist leaders, and ignoring genuine heroes, is another.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: No 'Stand Down' Order in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It is clear this neglect of the military follows a pattern of behavior by the Obama Administration. Celebrating the release of an AWOL soldier while releasing terrorist leaders, and ignoring genuine heroes, is another.
    This has nothing to do with a stand down order, Grant. You're being purposely off topic after complaining that others were off topic. May I suggest you discuss the stand down order?
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    Re: APNewsBreak: No 'Stand Down' Order in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    This has nothing to do with a stand down order, Grant. You're being purposely off topic after complaining that others were off topic. May I suggest you discuss the stand down order?
    Oh, c'mon, Hatuey~! You know and I know that you don't want this serial dereliction by the Commander In Chief to be discussed, not that it's 'off topic'. If you were sincere you would have commented on the 'off topic' comments on the very first page.

    It is absolutely on topic because it is a continuation of his disdain for the American military and the safety of American public.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: No 'Stand Down' Order in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
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    Grant, getting back to the topic, do you feel the soldiers who contradicted the right wing's narrative about a stand down order are traitors? I mean after all, the thread is about the fact that there was no stand down order.
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    Re: APNewsBreak: No 'Stand Down' Order in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It is clear this neglect of the military follows a pattern of behavior by the Obama Administration. Celebrating the release of an AWOL soldier while releasing terrorist leaders, and ignoring genuine heroes, is another.
    Has this guy paid any attention to the military budget during president Obama's administration? Or is he just a razorback partisan foreigner that doesn't know whether the US constitution has a due process clause, or a kill clause for the dude with a different opinion?
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    Re: APNewsBreak: No 'Stand Down' Order in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Oh, c'mon, Hatuey~! You know and I know that you don't want this serial dereliction by the Commander In Chief to be discussed, not that it's 'off topic'. If you were sincere you would have commented on the 'off topic' comments on the very first page.

    It is absolutely on topic because it is a continuation of his disdain for the American military and the safety of American public.
    Sounds like the same thing Cry babies said about Mr. Clinton. Poor thing you.
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    Re: APNewsBreak: No 'Stand Down' Order in Benghazi

    I'm glad to hear no order to stand down was given. But that does little to exonerate the lack of security that was present in the first place.
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    Re: APNewsBreak: No 'Stand Down' Order in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Grant, getting back to the topic, do you feel the soldiers who contradicted the right wing's narrative about a stand down order are traitors? I mean after all, the thread is about the fact that there was no stand down order.
    Why not deal with that right winger from post #5 first?

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    Re: APNewsBreak: No 'Stand Down' Order in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    According to testimony that was made available months ago, there were many operational reasons why it made no sense to fly that team from Tripoli to Benghazi. The short version was if the team had boarded a plane to fly to help, they'd have passed in flight the first plane carrying the wounded to Tripoli, where they would have just left, and would have arrived after the evacuation was complete, and all that was left was to get the remaining, uninjured personnel to where they needed to go, with staff on hand capable of getting that done, which they did. In other words, they wouldn't have helped much, if any, even with 20-20 hindsight, and were more needed right where they were, in Tripoli, to deal with the returning wounded and provide security to that base.

    The whole "stand down order" so-called controversy was BS from the start. The only thing that's confusing today is why this is news. It wouldn't be if people read testimony already made available on that decision. And even if the order turned out to be wrong in real time, why is that a controversy, unless people in charge in the military of making those decisions received orders from the WH to let them die or something, which no one has suggested, alleged, provided any proof of, etc. It's understandable that if people made bad decisions that in inquiry into why, in order to learn and make better decisions later, would be entirely appropriate, but that's not a scandal. That's people looking into a decision as a learning exercise.
    It wasnt BS. Its CONFIRMED in the op.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: No 'Stand Down' Order in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    It wasnt BS. Its CONFIRMED in the op.
    What was confirmed? That the team was ordered through normal chain of command to remain in Tripoli instead of take a round trip plane ride to Benghazi where they would be of no help? Yes, that was confirmed. So why is this still a controversy? If they'd have got what they wanted, they'd have passed the first plane of injured being flown to Tripoli where they just left, then stood around the airport in Benghazi, watching more planes get loaded with evacuees, which was handled just fine without them.

    So the military made a correct decision to leave them in Tripoli. What's the issue?

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