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GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information...[W:220, 325]

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Yeah, like the IRS isn't raft with progressive / liberal Obama supporters. Ha!

An IRS employee was suspended for 100 days for using his job at the agency’s help line to try to convince callers to vote for President Obama, a government watchdog agency announced Thursday.

The employee, whose name wasn’t mentioned in the announcement from the Office of Special Counsel, admitted to using his job for political purposes and agreed to the settlement that involved a 100-day suspension.
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IRS employee suspended for pro-Obama activities - Washington Times

I guess Lerner and her cabal aren't the only ones after all.

All the while it's being told to conservatives that they should 'trust' the IRS's judgement. Umm, NO!
 
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Mithros said:
Let me guess, you've never had any experience with email accounts which have a reasonable chance of being subpoenaed. Because if you did, you'd realize the importance of being careful. Don't write anything you don't want congress reading; no recipes, forwards, jokes, insulting words about your boss.... keep everything sterile. I daresay that anyone on this board would be quite embarrassed if all of their emails were made public.


But instead of thinking about it logically, you're imagining a giant conspiracy masterminded by a 30 year Reagan appointee to delay the application of a few groups which were applying for a status that doesn't apply to them in order to skirt campaign finance laws. Yawn.
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At the point Lerner said this, why would she think the emails were going to be subpoenaed by Congress?

Is that a natural assumption by every head of a department in the IRS? I wouldn't think so.
 
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poweRob said:
Anything that could possibly be ripped out of context and used as a political football. Which is becoming a GOP national past time these days.
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Why would the head of an IRS department be worried about that especially in April of 2013?
 
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Fenton said:
" Prudence" for what reason ?

I realize your loyalty to a corrupted ideology may force you to be a bit dishonest and subjective, but I'm not limited to discussing or understanding this issue in such a general manner.

Why was her demand for such " prudence" relevant to her admitted targeting of Conservative groups ?

We can be specific here. Or at least I can.
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These hearings are show trials designed to reach a predetermined conclusion. Cooperating with them would be foolish...and embarrassing for any professional. Lerner does herself a world of good, she embellishes her reputation by giving these clown shows the respect they deserve - none.
 
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Joe Steel said:
By definition, Republicans aren't non-partisan. By experience, we know they will attack and destroy anyone who they can to get what they want.
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I say "Do you realize the IRS is supposed to be non-partisan, right?"

You say "By definition, Republicans aren't non-partisan"

What does one have to do with the other?

Why would the head of an IRS department worry if the Republicans will take something she says out of context?

Will somebody please explain to me why the head of an IRS department is thinking in partisan terms, if you want to continue with this as your explanation?
 
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eohrnberger said:
As if Democrats aren't experts at distorting the same sort of things.

Tell me, have you heard about the alleged 'Republican War on Women?' That's an out right distortion. How about 'The Hobby Lobby decision will deny women reproductive healthcare'? (It doesn't so that's an out right lie).

Yeah, so kettle meet pot.
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You answered your own challenge. Hobby Lobby denies women affordable healthcare. The thing speaks for itself.
 
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Joe Steel said:
Thanks. That proves my point. Lerner is telling the staff to be careful, i.e, don't give the Republicans anything they can distort.
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Same question. Why is she worried about Republicans?
 
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Mason66 said:
I say "Do you realize the IRS is supposed to be non-partisan, right?"

You say "By definition, Republicans aren't non-partisan"

What does one have to do with the other?

Why would the head of an IRS department worry if the Republicans will take something she says out of context?

Will somebody please explain to me why the head of an IRS department is thinking in partisan terms, if you want to continue with this as your explanation?
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Are you serious? Have you been asleep for the last six years? The Republicans are trying to destroy the federal government.
 
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Joe Steel said:
Are you serious? Have you been asleep for the last six years? The Republicans are trying to destroy the federal government.
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Sure they are. I am sure they targeted the IRS for no reason at all.

Can you answer the question now?
 
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iguanaman said:
It's scandalous when a supervisor asks employees to watch their language in emails?
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Where are you leaping to this conclusion? Are you reading something I've not seen? Because every instance of this hasn't, in any way shape or form given ANY indication that this is about language. What it has done is suggest that people watch what they put in emails because Congress has been requesting them for investigations, and inquiring as to whether or not Instant Message communication is stored and tracked in the system in a similar fashion.
 
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iguanaman said:
If something happens in Hillary's administration Democrats can't complain?
Democrats won't be stupid enough to apply for approval when all they need to do is state it on their returns anyway. But if they actually get denied tax exempt status there will be hell to pay. That never happened to conservative groups.
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The conservative groups, unlike the liberal groups, were audited, harassed and hounded by the IRS for years. So if in the end they received tax exempt status, after the election was over, one can hardly claim that they were treated fairly and there was no wrongdoing. That would be like if the Nazis had released the jews from the concentration camps at the end of the war and then said "well we didn't actually kill you so quit your bitching."
 
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Joe Steel said:
You answered your own challenge. Hobby Lobby denies women affordable healthcare. The thing speaks for itself.
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Except that's a complete load of BULL ****!

Hobby Lobby still provides 16 out of 20 forms of medical contraception, with ZERO COPAY. The only ones they don't cover are the 4 that will abort a conceived embryo, the day after pills.
 
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eohrnberger said:
Except that's a complete load of BULL ****!

Hobby Lobby still provides 16 out of 20 forms of medical contraception, with ZERO COPAY. The only ones they don't cover are the 4 that will abort a conceived embryo, the day after pills.
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He knows that. He is following the party line.
 
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Mason66 said:
He knows that. He is following the party line.
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That would make him a liberal / progressive sheeple.

Now, there are also conservative sheeple around too. I really don't like, or agree, with them much either.
 
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eohrnberger said:
That would make him a liberal / progressive sheeple.

Now, there are also conservative sheeple around too. I really don't like, or agree, with them much either.
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Tell me honestly, with all the press the Hobby Lobby case has gotten, how can he not know the fact you posted? It is the party line to say Hobby Lobby is not providing health care to women.
 
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Joe Steel said:
Show me the guideline that makes prudence in communication a violation.
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[h=3]Agency Recordkeeping Requirements: A Management Guide[/h]www.archives.gov/.../agen...National Archives and Records Administration


In conducting business, every Federal agency creates a great number of ... are properly identified and preserved in agency recordkeeping systems. ... be held accountable through the proper scrutiny by the Congress and oversight agencies such as ... Use of electronic communications tools and personal computers has ...
 
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Yeah cause those Republican's would tell you there's not a "smidgin" of corruption in this most transparent regime ever; I mean this was the honest one that said we could all keep our doctors if we wanted too!


Joe Steel said:
Why wouldn't Lerner tell her colleagues to be careful? The Republicans will lie about anything. It's what they do. Better to make them lie about nothing than lie about something.
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Fenton said:
" Prudence" for what reason ?

I realize your loyalty to a corrupted ideology may force you to be a bit dishonest and subjective, but I'm not limited to discussing or understanding this issue in such a general manner.

Why was her demand for such " prudence" relevant to her admitted targeting of Conservative groups ?

We can be specific here. Or at least I can.
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In all fairness, those people are terrified that it will be discovered that Obama's finger prints are all over this deal.
 
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Moderator's Warning:
Let's stick to the topic and not make things personal.
 
Joe Steel said:
These hearings are show trials designed to reach a predetermined conclusion. Cooperating with them would be foolish...and embarrassing for any professional. Lerner does herself a world of good, she embellishes her reputation by giving these clown shows the respect they deserve - none.
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LOL !!


Yes, she's doing one hell of a Job shutting down this " Witch hunt " by claiming the 5th 24 consecutive times.

Because everyone knows thats the way you expose a politically motivated investigation.

You stonewall, you refuse outside third party investigations, you LIE and you destroy evidence.

Lol...sorry, you cant blame the Republicans on this anymore.

You people and your ilk at the IRS are responsible for the perpetuation of the Scandal far more than Darryl Issa.
 
apdst said:
In all fairness, those people are terrified that it will be discovered that Obama's finger prints are all over this deal.
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This is what's going to happen.....I think.

When there's so much evidence that not even left wing hacks can defend these actions, people like Pete and Joe Steel will just admit that Conservatives SHOULD be illegally targeted.

Then the Gloves come off I think.
 
Fenton said:
This is what's going to happen.....I think.

When there's so much evidence that not even left wing hacks can defend these actions, people like Pete and Joe Steel will just admit that Conservatives SHOULD be illegally targeted.

Then the Gloves come off I think.
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When it gets to that point, Obama will declare martial law.
 
apdst said:
When it gets to that point, Obama will declare martial law.
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In order for martial law to be effective Obama would have to have to Military and Police agencies on his side.

I dont see that ever happening.

A dictator without a military is not a threat against millions of armed Americans who've just been told by that dictator to cram it where the sun doesn't shine.
 
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