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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    The IRS scandal: Is a shocking new email the smoking cannon? | TribLIVE

    Whether or not it is the smoking cannon of the IRS scandal remains to be seen. But new revelations, ones that keep coming out in dribs and drabs, suggest that Lois Lerner might have conspired to obstruct justice in her agency's efforts to improperly target conservative opponents of the Obama administration.
    Ms. Lerner is the former head of the IRS's Exempt Organizations division. Conservative groups appear to have been singled out to have their First Amendment rights quashed. And a new email released this week shows that, just as the targeting scandal was going public, she warned staffers “to be cautious about what we say in emails” because those communications could end up before Congress.
    Worse, the email, dated April 9, 2013, suggests that the IRS thought it could employ instant messaging as an end around to subvert open-records laws.
    Couple this new development with the IRS's fantastical claims of hard-drive crashes that just happened to befall principals of this scandal, crashes that conveniently parallel the scandal's timeline, and the stench now is overbearing. Thus, a scandal that long ago cried out for the appointment of a special prosecutor now is screaming at the top of its lungs. And failing to investigate an IRS (now under a federal judge's order to come clean) that appears to be the definition of a corrupt criminal enterprise can only lead reasonable people to conclude that the enterprise is not limited to the IRS.




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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The IRS scandal: Is a shocking new email the smoking cannon? | TribLIVE

    Whether or not it is the smoking cannon of the IRS scandal remains to be seen. But new revelations, ones that keep coming out in dribs and drabs, suggest that Lois Lerner might have conspired to obstruct justice in her agency's efforts to improperly target conservative opponents of the Obama administration.
    Ms. Lerner is the former head of the IRS's Exempt Organizations division. Conservative groups appear to have been singled out to have their First Amendment rights quashed. And a new email released this week shows that, just as the targeting scandal was going public, she warned staffers “to be cautious about what we say in emails” because those communications could end up before Congress.
    Worse, the email, dated April 9, 2013, suggests that the IRS thought it could employ instant messaging as an end around to subvert open-records laws.
    Couple this new development with the IRS's fantastical claims of hard-drive crashes that just happened to befall principals of this scandal, crashes that conveniently parallel the scandal's timeline, and the stench now is overbearing. Thus, a scandal that long ago cried out for the appointment of a special prosecutor now is screaming at the top of its lungs. And failing to investigate an IRS (now under a federal judge's order to come clean) that appears to be the definition of a corrupt criminal enterprise can only lead reasonable people to conclude that the enterprise is not limited to the IRS.




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    A "corrupt criminal enterprise" in charge of collecting tax payer's dollars with the full power of government confiscation behind it.
    And some are saying "What could possibly go wrong?"
    Unbelievable.
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

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    A "corrupt criminal enterprise" in charge of collecting tax payer's dollars with the full power of government confiscation behind it.
    And some are saying "What could possibly go wrong?"
    Unbelievable.
    Our first clue should have been way back when Obamacare was first being sold to the public and it included a provision for up to 6,000 new IRS agents just to implement Obamacare. To enlist the IRS to enforce a program in the Health and Human Services Dept. should have been a huge red flag of how he intended to use the IRS.

    Back in 2009, Obama was quoted about joking about using IRS audits on this person or that person. Prof. Reynolds of Instapundit wrote a piece about it in the Wall Street Journal--or it might have been a letter to the editor? I can't remember for sure. It is almost impossible to get accurate information about anything like that from the MSM these days, but there has been sufficient rumbles in the underground media about this person or that person getting audited after a confrontation with the President to at least raise eyebrows. And with the current IRS scandal, the concept of a government who would use the IRS to bully those on its 'enemies list' doesn't seem like so much of a joke.
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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Our first clue should have been way back when Obamacare was first being sold to the public and it included a provision for up to 6,000 new IRS agents just to implement Obamacare. To enlist the IRS to enforce a program in the Health and Human Services Dept. should have been a huge red flag of how he intended to use the IRS.

    Back in 2009, Obama was quoted about joking about using IRS audits on this person or that person. Prof. Reynolds of Instapundit wrote a piece about it in the Wall Street Journal--or it might have been a letter to the editor? I can't remember for sure. It is almost impossible to get accurate information about anything like that from the MSM these days, but there has been sufficient rumbles in the underground media about this person or that person getting audited after a confrontation with the President to at least raise eyebrows. And with the current IRS scandal, the concept of a government who would use the IRS to bully those on its 'enemies list' doesn't seem like so much of a joke.
    Well said and well researched.

    Given your apparent expertise, I'll ask you the question: "How to fix the IRS" and perhaps this abuse of government power in general?
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Well said and well researched.

    Given your apparent expertise, I'll ask you the question: "How to fix the IRS" and perhaps this abuse of government power in general?
    The only way I see to fix the government and the IRS with it is to eject the permanent political class that occupies it at every level. And the only way to do that, short of revolution, is to throw our full support behind the Tea Party, 9/12ers, tax reform groups who are trying to replace them with reformers and true public servants that we once had.
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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Our first clue should have been way back when Obamacare was first being sold to the public and it included a provision for up to 6,000 new IRS agents just to implement Obamacare. To enlist the IRS to enforce a program in the Health and Human Services Dept. should have been a huge red flag of how he intended to use the IRS.

    Back in 2009, Obama was quoted about joking about using IRS audits on this person or that person. Prof. Reynolds of Instapundit wrote a piece about it in the Wall Street Journal--or it might have been a letter to the editor? I can't remember for sure. It is almost impossible to get accurate information about anything like that from the MSM these days, but there has been sufficient rumbles in the underground media about this person or that person getting audited after a confrontation with the President to at least raise eyebrows. And with the current IRS scandal, the concept of a government who would use the IRS to bully those on its 'enemies list' doesn't seem like so much of a joke.
    The second, even more obvious clue, should have been when we discovered that the IRS felt the need to be armed to the teeth...

    IRS Agents Training With AR-15 Rifles, Lawmaker Says | Fox News Insider
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    She's certainly hiding something.
    I still maintain that this goes a lot higher than Lerner and she's afraid she'll get clipped if she tells what she knows.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Who pleads the 5th when it was explicitly implied that conservative groups were targeted?

    Some of those emails were recovered and I have read them and Lerner made targeting conservatives look like a joke or hobby.....

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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I still maintain that this goes a lot higher than Lerner and she's afraid she'll get clipped if she tells what she knows.

    Maybe but I think this is the status quo within the ranks.... Look at the DOJ.

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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Sadly, the voters have been fed misinformation for the last 6 to 7 years.

    The news media has done a woeful job of speak truth to power and holding all branches of the government accountable through their accurate and factual news reporting.
    Sadly the voters rely on being fed, and sit around complaining about the media instead of educating themselves.

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