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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    The poster was trying to imply this was all Bush's fault or Reagans fault - hence the Genesis of this entire affair was because of Republicans - which I just squashed like a bug.
    HAHAHAHA! Nice try.

    The point is not that anything was Bush or Reagans fault, but a career bureaucrat appointed and promoted under both Reagan or Bush make a fairly ludicrous lynch pin of a "gigantic" conspiracy. So what.. Obama planned to have Lerner installed in 2006 to counteract Citizens United in 2010 to target tea party groups that didn't yet exist?

    If you want to delve into conspiracy land, you at least need to have some reasonable way for it to have been planned and orchestrated.

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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    HAHAHAHA! Nice try.

    The point is not that anything was Bush or Reagans fault, but a career bureaucrat appointed and promoted under both Reagan or Bush make a fairly ludicrous lynch pin of a "gigantic" conspiracy. So what.. Obama planned to have Lerner installed in 2006 to counteract Citizens United in 2010 to target tea party groups that didn't yet exist?
    Which I've already proven is a lie - since neither Reagan nor Bush appointed Lerner. The entire premise of your "point" is based on made up fantasy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    If you want to delve into conspiracy land, you at least need to have some reasonable way for it to have been planned and orchestrated.
    Sorry - not my cup of tea and loons discussing conspiracy theories (you're a TRUTHER are you?) are segregated from the rest of DP in their own little hole.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    HAHAHAHA! Nice try.

    The point is not that anything was Bush or Reagans fault, but a career bureaucrat appointed and promoted under both Reagan or Bush make a fairly ludicrous lynch pin of a "gigantic" conspiracy. So what.. Obama planned to have Lerner installed in 2006 to counteract Citizens United in 2010 to target tea party groups that didn't yet exist?

    If you want to delve into conspiracy land, you at least need to have some reasonable way for it to have been planned and orchestrated.
    Good grief. You're saying nothing.

    Nobody knows yet what anyone knew because Lerner isn't talking. But the fact that she worked for government while Reagan & Bush were in office is irrelevant, utterly & completely irrelevant. Maybe she didn't do anything while Bush was President because nobody in the Bush administration wanted right wing groups scrutinized. You don't know, we don't know. Nobody knows. But stop deflecting from what we do know with your 7 degrees of separation ridiculous irrelevant posts.

    Good grief x 2.

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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    According to liberal revisionist history, yes. I cannot find any official government files on her during these years.

    According to blogs and other resources of unknown integrity, she was appointed to an FEC position in 1981 or 1986. I saw two different years. There was no senate confirmation vote, so it wasn't a key position. She was probably part of some package agreement the democrats insisted on. Same under Bush (43). They say she was appointed to the IRS then, but not necessarily by Bush's request.
    OK, I found something:

    WASHINGTON – The Federal Election Commission has designated

    Lois G. Lerner, presently the FEC’s Associate General Counsel for Enforcement, to serve as Acting General Counsel for a period of six months while the Commission conducts an open selection process to fill the General Counsel’s position. Ms. Lerner’s appointment will be effective on January 2, 2001.

    The FEC’s General Counsel, Lawrence M. Noble, will be leaving the FEC on January 1, 2001 to become Executive Director and General Counsel of the Center for Responsive Politics.

    Ms. Lerner joined the FEC’s General Counsel’s Office in 1981, served as an Assistant General Counsel, and was appointed in 1986 to head the Enforcement Division. Prior to joining the FEC, she was a staff attorney in the Criminal Division of the Department of Justice. She is a graduate of Northeastern University in Boston and received her Juris Doctor from Western New England College of Law in Springfield, MA.
    http://www.fec.gov/press/120100agc.htm

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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    You're the only person attempting to make that distinction, and you're failing miserably.

    First, I invented nothing. Second, the IRS described how she was "selected". Third, where is the proof of a Bush appointment? Oh yeah - there isn't any. Fourth - I didn't provide an article, I provided the IRS's official notification. You couldn't be more dishonest in your post if you tried - and I do believe you've tried.... very hard.

    Well, since McCain wasn't in a position to APPOINT anyone as his running mate, yes he selected.




    First rule of holes - if you find yourself in one stop digging. This is a good time to stop digging. Tend to your wounds a live to try another day.
    You still don't see it. On one hand you're saying that Obama was secretly pulling the strings behind the tax exempt department of the IRS. On the other, you're saying that position was just a run of the mill IRS position filled internally in the IRS. Newsflash, it can't be both.

    And seriously, your distinction between appointed and selected is pretty silly.

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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Anything about Reagan or Bush?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    No, it's what the IRS said... right here... from the IRS's own website.



    Lois G. Lerner Selected as Director of IRS Exempt Organizations Division

    Yes.

    Selected, not appointed.

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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    You still don't see it. On one hand you're saying that Obama was secretly pulling the strings behind the tax exempt department of the IRS. On the other, you're saying that position was just a run of the mill IRS position filled internally in the IRS. Newsflash, it can't be both.

    And seriously, your distinction between appointed and selected is pretty silly.
    I don't have to see it - You posted misinformation. Any point you have is based on false information. All you've got left is moving the goal posts - which you're now attempting. How precious! I think I'm going to debate you more often - it's easy to refute abjectly false statements.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Actually W did appoint Bush to the IRS in 2001.

    Look up Lois Lerner on Wikipedia. it clearly states this.

    That does not have anything to do with the truth of her behaviors regarding the groups that applied for tax exempt status.

    From where most people sit she's looking more and more guilty.

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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by DB20 View Post
    Actually W did appoint Bush to the IRS in 2001.

    Look up Lois Lerner on Wikipedia. it clearly states this.

    That does not have anything to do with the truth of her behaviors regarding the groups that applied for tax exempt status.

    From where most people sit she's looking more and more guilty.
    Yet the IRS says she was "selected". Does Wiki have the link which states Bush himself appointed her? It's interesting because the President doesn't make low level appointments - in any administration.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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