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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    It wouldn't be if it is how you characterize it, but she said it was specifically so Congress cannot get information.

    Do you not see that as obstruction?

    What would Lerner want to hide from Congress?
    Anything that could possibly be ripped out of context and used as a political football. Which is becoming a GOP national past time these days.
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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Derp View Post
    Let me see if I'm getting this straight here.

    Some here are suggesting that Lerner is referring to things of personal use that are being discussed on a business email account, if that's the case, anyone using IRS email accounts for anything other than official business should be disciplined immediately.

    What else would you want to hide from Congress if you're just doing your job on IRS email accounts?
    one thing an employee might want to not include in an email to another federal co-worker is criticism of congress ... such as the way the law was written to prevent ANY campaign/political activities by eligible 501c(4) companies, which devolved in the regulations to prohibiting SIGNIFICANT political activities
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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Her instructions to her staff are the exact opposite of the standing government orders regarding email use.
    you are wrong again

    my (former) employing federal agency even agreed to non-excessive personal use of the computer/email system

    but share with us the government wide standing orders that are the opposite of learner's admonition
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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    I can't wait for the next president to just unsign all of obama's executive orders in one fell swoop.
    i guess obama doesn't realize that what he has done can be undone.
    That is assuming the next person in office is a conservative. Liberals democrats and RINOs are not going to undo what Obama did.
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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Anything that could possibly be ripped out of context and used as a political football. Which is becoming a GOP national past time these days.
    As if the GOP are the only ones engaged in that particular pastime. Does 'Republican War on Women' ring a bell? How about 'Hobby Lobby decision denies reproductive healthcare to women'?

    Yeah, those'd be only 2 examples of political footballs that were taken out of context, if not down right lies, for the same pastime.

    So kettle meet pot. K?
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    where is the obstruction?
    she advised her subordinate staff to be cautious about what is shared in emails because there may be a need for the congress to read them
    and it appears her caution was warranted, because look at how the hyper-partisans have read her email, insisting that she is advocating 'obstruction'
    how much sense does it make for learner to send an email which she knew might be read by congress, and suborn congressional oversight within said email?
    You answered your own question.
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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Didn't you ever take civics in school? The IRS is part of the executive and Congress is part of the legislative branch of the government.
    Maybe you need to recheck your own 'civics' course instruction...Having done so you would know that Congress is responsible for oversight of the IRS. That is the very thing this criminal is worried about in this e-mail.
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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Maybe you need to recheck your own 'civics' course instruction...Having done so you would know that Congress is responsible for oversight of the IRS. That is the very thing this criminal is worried about in this e-mail.
    WOW!!! I had no idea you were a mind reader j. Can you please tell me what I had for lunch today? BTW, did you check the date on that email.


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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    In other words "the way I see it". That's the problem. You can't make **** up and expect people to take you seriously. You need evidence.
    Evidence of harm would be a good start. Then you can explain how this helped the Democrats so much that they were all in on what would have been the stupidest misuse of IRS power imaginable. Little or no gains with a HUGE downside risk if discovered. You must be kidding right?
    Stupidity is never to be ruled out, and the language of her instruction is contrary to federal guidelines for dealing with Congress.
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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    WOW!!! I had no idea you were a mind reader j. Can you please tell me what I had for lunch today? BTW, did you check the date on that email.
    Doesn't take a mind reader, just any person with common sense.
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