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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Didn't you ever take civics in school? The IRS is part of the executive and Congress is part of the legislative branch of the government.
    And they're all supposed to be on the same side: Ours.

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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    The mere fact that there appears to be willful information 'hiding' in case congress investigates is already very suspicious.
    Especially so considering the power that the IRS have over the population.

    Why are they (Lerner and her buddies) worried about a congressional investigation unless they've been doing something wrong or illegal that congress would object to?

    Since it's a government agency, and this is a government "government of the people, by the people, for the people" shouldn't any non-personal and non-private IRS information be available for public inspection?



    I'd have to agree Mason. It's very suspicious, as if they knew they were guilty of something and wanted to try and hide it. Clearly a case and cause for digging deeper and investigating further.
    I mentioned yesterday why they need to be cautious what they write in emails. They have access to taxpayer information and it would not be prudent to email that information to anyone because it is not secure. I think that's a no brainer.


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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    And they're all supposed to be on the same side: Ours.
    Correct, but I also learned in my civics class about the system of checks and balances. Most everything in government is on a need to know basis.


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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    It's scandalous when a supervisor asks employees to watch their language in emails?
    Ahhhhhahahahahahah!


    Wow...

    Oh man...
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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Ahhhhhahahahahahah!


    Wow...

    Oh man...
    Um... lets just say those kinds of warnings are standard practice.

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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Um... lets just say those kinds of warnings are standard practice.
    Um, let's just say no, no they are not... except maybe if you work for the Mafia.
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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Gringo allstar View Post
    I dont think she was referring to off color jokes?? Do you??? What will it take for you to realize whats going on here?
    Right?

    1) IRS official holds a press conference and plants a question in the audience about IRS targeting of conservatives so that she can blame the incident on a few rogue agents in Cincinnati
    2) It's later shown that it was not a few rogue agents in Cincinnati, but was traced back to the IRS officials own office
    3) When called before congress to explain herself the IRS agent pleads the 5th against self incrimination
    4) When asked for the emails for 7 IRS officials connected to the targeting the IRS says it will take 2 years to provide the data
    5) When pressed on why it will take to years they claim the "hard drives crashed" (which any IT profession can spot as a lie immediately), and the time line was changed from "two years" to "never"
    6) Under growing suspicion due to the mysterious disappearance of the emails suddenly TA DA! The Emails mysteriously materialize from the recycled hard drives
    7) One email shows the IRS agent that plead the 5th asking a fellow employee is the Instant Messages can be searched by congress and sighs in relief when she is told they can't
    8) Another email shows the IRS official instructing IRS staff to be careful what they discuss in email because it is subject to discovery by congress

    Lefty Conclusion: Nothing to see here folks!

    Somehow the lefties see an initial admission of guilt excused by a lie followed by over a year of evasion and lies don't constitute grounds for suspicion.
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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Um, let's just say no, no they are not... except maybe if you work for the Mafia.
    Let me guess, you've never had any experience with email accounts which have a reasonable chance of being subpoenaed. Because if you did, you'd realize the importance of being careful. Don't write anything you don't want congress reading; no recipes, forwards, jokes, insulting words about your boss.... keep everything sterile. I daresay that anyone on this board would be quite embarrassed if all of their emails were made public.


    But instead of thinking about it logically, you're imagining a giant conspiracy masterminded by a 30 year Reagan appointee to delay the application of a few groups which were applying for a status that doesn't apply to them in order to skirt campaign finance laws. Yawn.

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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Apples and oranges. The backup was mislabeled, when found, not problems noted. It was a single system. not seven.

    What are the statistics of seven separate system hard drives failing in the same time period? Where are the seven backups?
    Did any loyal republican IT guys have access to all seven?

    Since we're talking about conspiracies.
    Anyone wondering what I'm talking about start here:
    The Psychology of Persuasion

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    Re: GOP: Lerner warned IRS employees to hide information from Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Let me guess, you've never had any experience with email accounts which have a reasonable chance of being subpoenaed. Because if you did, you'd realize the importance of being careful. Don't write anything you don't want congress reading; no recipes, forwards, jokes, insulting words about your boss.... keep everything sterile. I daresay that anyone on this board would be quite embarrassed if all of their emails were made public.


    But instead of thinking about it logically, you're imagining a giant conspiracy masterminded by a 30 year Reagan appointee to delay the application of a few groups which were applying for a status that doesn't apply to them in order to skirt campaign finance laws. Yawn.
    There is a conspiracy. But I agree with you about being careful; any e-mail can potentially be subpoenaed, and if you access your Yahoo account through your work computer, those e-mails can be too. There are Fortune 500 companies that monitor employee e-mail as SOP, and this is clearly true of state and fed offices. I've never logged into DP from my work computer and only rarely log into my Yahoo account. In fact, good advice is to use your work computer for work only, and that's what I do.

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