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Indiana won't recognize same-sex marriages

And I'm sorry you don't have the intellectual acuity to differentiate between a general statement about liberal ideology and the policy positions that evolve from that ideology and a general statement about liberals, in general.
I do, actually, which is why I know EXACTLY what you said. If you had talked about ideology or positions, you would have said ideology and positions. But you didn't. You said liberals. With an "s", meaning it was plural. Furthermore, you stated what you thought liberals believe.

Your dishonest backtracking is transparent. My intellectual acuity is just fine, though your refusal to admit your own words is rather disconcerting.

If I was going to pompously stick my nose into a discussion between two other people, I'd certainly want to have some idea what I was talking about - you, it appears, are not so constrained.
I'm sorry if the truth bothers you. I'm sorry if you don't like being exposed for the things you've said. I cannot help the fact you don't like being responsible for your own words. Here, I'll post once again what you said, because you seem to have forgotten:

This conservative understands that there's a difference between tax cuts, tax rates, and tax credits/deductions. Most conservatives I know believe that taxes should be as low as possible and only fund what government was established to do and what only government can do. Liberals, on the other hand, believe that taxes should be as high as possible so that government can interfere in the daily lives of citizens, can pick winners and losers, can bribe citizens with their own money for their votes, and can fund their pet projects and cronies through kickbacks.

It's very clear you are talking about PEOPLE, not ideology and positions. You first start with a discussion of yourself, which is a person. Then you talk about people you know. Finally, to contrast yourself and the people you know, you talk about what other people believe. Your nonsense about ideology and positions is asinine, as it's VERY clear you made a general statement about a group of people.

I don't know why you won't do the honest thing and just admit you made a generalized statement about people. It's painfully aware to everyone what you said and you can't change what is obvious on the screen. You weren't talking about ideology or positions, you were making a generalized statement about a group of people, which "TheNextEra" rightfully pointed out was stupid. Just own your words, because no matter how much you try to muddy the water, it's plain to see exactly what you said.
 
That is the rare exception and not the rule..........99% of all straights to get married procreate.

Bull**** people are procreating NOW without getting married. That may have flown back in 1950, but not now. Face facts, time has passed you by and you're still stuck there.
 
Bull**** people are procreating NOW without getting married. That may have flown back in 1950, but not now. Face facts, time has passed you by and you're still stuck there.

They aren't gays who are doing it.
 
They aren't gays who are doing it.

Speak English, I have no idea what you even said. You said 99% of the people now are getting married to procreate, that is BS because people have procreated WITHOUT marriage. You just pulled 99% out of thin air and expect people to believe that BS. Well we don't.
 
Yeah a man with morals and values marriage as the institution it is.

The institution constantly defiled by child abuse, wife beating, adultery, divorce?

That one? What more do you think gays could do to it?
 
That is why you leffties are so clueless......Because someone does not want the definition of marriage changed in your narrow mind they are a bigot...........sad.

LMAO

Oh the irony.
 
You are right, the gays will twist the laws and work the system and scream discrimination at the top of their little lungs and stamp their feet till they get their way.

Just like those uppity blacks and obnoxious women did to get their civil rights.

What a bunch of entitled, inconvenient losers!
 
come election time liberals always use the stale old playbook..........conservatives are either anti woman, anti Gays, or anti poor. The silent majority is wising up and it won't be like this in November 2014

This could be true, but remember before the 2012 elections? You might end up sounding like Karl Rove on Fox on election day.
 
No it's comparison. But hey, those against interracial marriage are looked down upon, so eventually will those that are against SSM. You are in good group there LOL.

He's not good with comparisons. He kept changing single units to overall usage in another thread to attempt to regain some footing in an argument.

It should be obvious and if not, many here have posted about the direct comparisons where some states had to be compelled to recognize interracial marriage over the popular vote and/or opinions of those states' citizens.
 
Most people will never agree that SSM is the same as traditional marriage. what liberal activist justices have mandated can and will be reversed.

And most people dont care. We dont care if you agree. Think whatever you want, just dont expect other people to have to conform to what you agree or disagree with.

Your disagreement effects the marriages of gay couples as much as gay marriage affects straight marriages. Get it?
 
Its not marriage.......marriage is between a man and a woman and they can procreate...Gays can't do that period.

Lots of people marry that cannot have kids or choose not to have kids. They are not prevented from marrying.

Gays procreate all the time. Naturally. They produce biological children and they form families...just like the straight married couples with step kids.

Two for two! Care to go for three?

How about that other old cliche....next people will want to marry their dogs?! I mean, let's not miss any of that silly unfounded tripe.
 
And most people dont care. We dont care if you agree. Think whatever you want, just dont expect other people to have to conform to what you agree or disagree with.

That's a two way street and tell it to the mirror. Get it?
 
Well, I must say several posts (yours included) have given me pause to reconsider. I agree with you re that slippery slope, by the way.

Of course there is due process but the legal (from the federal level) writing is on the wall.

I would be exceedingly annoyed that my legislators were wasting any of my taxdollars further obfuscating on this issue. There are a million more critical issues and needs in every state.
 
That's a two way street and tell it to the mirror. Get it?

That's what I wrote....did you not understand it completely?

:lamo :lamo :lamo
 
Speak English, I have no idea what you even said. You said 99% of the people now are getting married to procreate, that is BS because people have procreated WITHOUT marriage. You just pulled 99% out of thin air and expect people to believe that BS. Well we don't.

Try and keep up, I know its difficult for you. of course people procreate outside of marriage but gays sure as hell don't.
 
That's what I wrote....did you not understand it completely?

:lamo :lamo :lamo

I quoted what you wrote. Now I'm showing you that it applies equally to your own arguments. Or did you not understand that?
 
That is the rare exception and not the rule..........99% of all straights to get married procreate.

Let's see some sources for that.

Lot's of people choose not to even have kids. There's enough of us here on the forum that made that choice to dismiss your statement right there.
 
The institution constantly defiled by child abuse, wife beating, adultery, divorce?

That one? What more do you think gays could do to it?

Horse ****.....that is what gets all the pub ib the liberal rags.
 
I quoted what you wrote. Now I'm showing you that it applies equally to your own arguments. Or did you not understand that?

That's what I wrote...that it applies to both. Good Lord.

:doh :doh :doh
 
Horse ****.....that is what gets all the pub ib the liberal rags.

Nearly 50% of all marriages end in divorce. Not half, but close.

Why do you think they are disintegrating? Because of abuse and cheating and other poor treatment of the people who took that 'sacred vow.'

The statistics on domestic abuse are vast. Stats on cheating, vast.

WHen you were in the Navy, did your ship float up "de nial?'
 
This could be true, but remember before the 2012 elections? You might end up sounding like Karl Rove on Fox on election day.

We shall see my left wing friend.......I am looking for a big win for the GOP come November
 
Nearly 50% of all marriages end in divorce. Not half, but close.

Why do you think they are disintegrating? Because of abuse and cheating and other poor treatment of the people who took that 'sacred vow.'

The statistics on domestic abuse are vast. Stats on cheating, vast.

WHen you were in the Navy, did your ship float up "de nial?'

Actually that 50% figure is in error when you add all the young people who get divorces or have the marriages annuled.
 
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