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    Re: Indiana won't recognize same-sex marriages

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    That is the rare exception and not the rule..........99% of all straights to get married procreate.
    I'd love to see some figures to back that up.
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    Re: Indiana won't recognize same-sex marriages

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Not quite - I simply provided my assessment, based on experience and observation, of how conservatives and liberals approach government policy. That in no way generalizes who liberals are, as individuals - it simply speaks to the form their groupspeak takes on any given issue.

    You're free to dispute any of the points I made, if you can.
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    Tell me, CJ... did I just make a blanket statement about conservatives... considering that's my assessment, based on experience, of how conservatives approach government?
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    Re: Indiana won't recognize same-sex marriages

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    "Conservatives don't care about the population at all. All they care about is lining their own pockets with bribes and kickbacks from big business so big business can steal from the general population, ruin the environment, and increase their wealth while destroying everyone else. Conservatives are the tool of religious extremists, wanting to interfere in as much of our daily lives as possible, and wanting to create laws that dictate their morality and beliefs while trampling on anything or anyone who disagrees with them."

    Tell me, CJ... did I just make a blanket statement about conservatives... considering that's my assessment, based on experience, of how conservatives approach government?
    If you believe conservatives espouse those policy positions in government, then no you didn't. An identifiable group's policy platforms are not in and of themselves a blanket description of those who identify with that group. There are many conservatives who are pro-choice as there are many liberals who are pro-life - neither of which is reflected in their party's platform, as an example.

    Now, if you'd followed the discussion that Deuce and I were having and discovered that my comments were in response to our discussion about how government supports individual lives, you may have gotten that distinction. Deuce made similar comments to yours with respect to perceptions of conservatives in response. I don't challenge your perceptions, but I've never claimed all individuals of any persuasion hold the same views of the majority in that group. I only claimed that their approach to government follows a particular form which neither you nor anyone else has belied.
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    Re: Indiana won't recognize same-sex marriages

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    That is the rare exception and not the rule..........99% of all straights to get married procreate.
    That is a bull****.

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    Re: Indiana won't recognize same-sex marriages

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    That is the rare exception and not the rule..........99% of all straights to get married procreate.
    The percentage of married women ages 40 to 44 who had no biological children and no other kids in the household, such as adopted children or stepkids, reached 6% in the period from 2006 to 2010. That's a small but statistically significant jump since 1988, when only 4.5% of married women had no kids.

    More married women in U.S. aren't having children - Los Angeles Times

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    Re: Indiana won't recognize same-sex marriages

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    And I'm sorry you don't have the intellectual acuity to differentiate between a general statement about liberal ideology and the policy positions that evolve from that ideology and a general statement about liberals, in general.
    I do, actually, which is why I know EXACTLY what you said. If you had talked about ideology or positions, you would have said ideology and positions. But you didn't. You said liberals. With an "s", meaning it was plural. Furthermore, you stated what you thought liberals believe.

    Your dishonest backtracking is transparent. My intellectual acuity is just fine, though your refusal to admit your own words is rather disconcerting.

    If I was going to pompously stick my nose into a discussion between two other people, I'd certainly want to have some idea what I was talking about - you, it appears, are not so constrained.
    I'm sorry if the truth bothers you. I'm sorry if you don't like being exposed for the things you've said. I cannot help the fact you don't like being responsible for your own words. Here, I'll post once again what you said, because you seem to have forgotten:

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    This conservative understands that there's a difference between tax cuts, tax rates, and tax credits/deductions. Most conservatives I know believe that taxes should be as low as possible and only fund what government was established to do and what only government can do. Liberals, on the other hand, believe that taxes should be as high as possible so that government can interfere in the daily lives of citizens, can pick winners and losers, can bribe citizens with their own money for their votes, and can fund their pet projects and cronies through kickbacks.
    It's very clear you are talking about PEOPLE, not ideology and positions. You first start with a discussion of yourself, which is a person. Then you talk about people you know. Finally, to contrast yourself and the people you know, you talk about what other people believe. Your nonsense about ideology and positions is asinine, as it's VERY clear you made a general statement about a group of people.

    I don't know why you won't do the honest thing and just admit you made a generalized statement about people. It's painfully aware to everyone what you said and you can't change what is obvious on the screen. You weren't talking about ideology or positions, you were making a generalized statement about a group of people, which "TheNextEra" rightfully pointed out was stupid. Just own your words, because no matter how much you try to muddy the water, it's plain to see exactly what you said.

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    Re: Indiana won't recognize same-sex marriages

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    That is the rare exception and not the rule..........99% of all straights to get married procreate.
    Bull**** people are procreating NOW without getting married. That may have flown back in 1950, but not now. Face facts, time has passed you by and you're still stuck there.

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    Re: Indiana won't recognize same-sex marriages

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    That is the rare exception and not the rule..........99% of all straights to get married procreate.
    LOL....uh..........no they don't. Wow.
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    Re: Indiana won't recognize same-sex marriages

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I'd love to see some figures to back that up.
    OK lets just say a very huge majority do. You can't question that.
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    Re: Indiana won't recognize same-sex marriages

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Bull**** people are procreating NOW without getting married. That may have flown back in 1950, but not now. Face facts, time has passed you by and you're still stuck there.
    They aren't gays who are doing it.
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