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    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

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    You can find the powers of POTUS by referring to Article II of the Constitution where they are listed.
    NOT what I asked you.
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    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

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    so you would prefer to work for $4 a day?
    Strawman. Why don't you stick to what I said rather than make things up?
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    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

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    Most BMW's sold in America are made in either Germany, which has a higher effective minimum wage than in the US, or right here in my county. My county is home to the largest BMW factory in the world.
    I know that there are a number of plants in the states. A lot of their high tech stuff is too. Porsche would be the better example. So we should make sure that we only buy the ones built there. You can follow it in the computer. But don't forget the profits that are repatriated.

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    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Strawman. Why don't you stick to what I said rather than make things up?
    What I originally said was that I didn't want a US that paid third world wages. You then said "you progressives don't have a clue".

    I'm certainly not a progressive, so I don't know why you even said what you said, and I certainly don't know how to respond to your nonsense, so I paraphrased my original statement so that maybe you could understand it better.
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    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Most BMW's sold in America are made in either Germany, which has a higher effective minimum wage than in the US, or right here in my county. My county is home to the largest BMW factory in the world.
    We probably live a stones throw from each other. I pass Spartanburg everyday. And Michelin, and a host of others that are either feeder industry to these companies, or independent industry in the greater Greenville/Spartanburg area. Unionized positions in this area are near non existent, and because of that I see greater prosperity among younger people here than I did living 20 years in Maryland, and growing up in Michigan.
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    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I know that there are a number of plants in the states. A lot of their high tech stuff is too. Porsche would be the better example. So we should make sure that we only buy the ones built there. You can follow it in the computer. But don't forget the profits that are repatriated.
    To the best of my knowledge, my local BMW plant is the only one in the US, but I could be wrong about that. We do have plenty of BMW supplier companies located all over the US though.

    So Porshes are built in third world countries? I didn't know that.
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    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    We probably live a stones throw from each other. I pass Spartanburg everyday. And Michelin, and a host of others that are either feeder industry to these companies, or independent industry in the greater Greenville/Spartanburg area. Unionized positions in this area are near non existent, and because of that I see greater prosperity among younger people here than I did living 20 years in Maryland, and growing up in Michigan.
    there are a number of posters from this area, including at least one moderator.
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    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    What I originally said was that I didn't want a US that paid third world wages. You then said "you progressives don't have a clue".

    I'm certainly not a progressive, so I don't know why you even said what you said, and I certainly don't know how to respond to your nonsense, so I paraphrased my original statement so that maybe you could understand it better.
    I apologize if I mis characterized your post or sentiment. In the heat of the moment, I may have misconstrued what you were trying to get across.

    You said: "I personally don't desire an America that pays third world wages."

    I don't desire that either. It is your use of the term "third world wages" that threw me....According to the Independent Institute

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    Now, I don't know if you're trying to throw me intentionally or just use rhetoric but in any case I don't think that by having a Walmart around is endangering us to that reality.
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    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    there are a number of posters from this area, including at least one moderator.
    Hmmm...That's cool...I threw a party last weekend that I openly invited any in the area to attend but didn't get much response...Ah well, I thought it would be cool to meet some of the other posters in the area...But, to no avail....The invitation still stands as long as I am home, if you're interested you should PM me.
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    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I apologize if I mis characterized your post or sentiment. In the heat of the moment, I may have misconstrued what you were trying to get across.

    You said: "I personally don't desire an America that pays third world wages."

    I don't desire that either. It is your use of the term "third world wages" that threw me....According to the Independent Institute

    040927_1.gif

    Now, I don't know if you're trying to throw me intentionally or just use rhetoric but in any case I don't think that by having a Walmart around is endangering us to that reality.
    Only because we have a minimum wage which you support of course. Do you also support raising the minimum wage?

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