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    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    I personally don't desire an America that pays third world wages.
    More BS rhetoric....I swear, you progressives are just all about the bumper sticker slogans aren't you? Get a clue dude.
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    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    More BS rhetoric....I swear, you progressives are just all about the bumper sticker slogans aren't you? Get a clue dude.
    C'mon

    Hope and Change

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    Those didn't inspire you?

    The fact is that there are two kinds of people in the world.

    Those that sit around and bitch all day long, waiting for someone else to take care of them and those that see the world for what it is and make the necessary adaptations to maximize their own welfare and happiness.

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    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Says who?

    I figure the role of the government is to do and be whatever those who are in power desire it to be. If it is a dictator who desires to behead people, then that's it's roll. If it is a democracy or representitive democracy operating under a constitutional framework (a republic), then it's the roll of government to do whatever the representatives of the people desire it to be.

    You sound like you are reading from a book entitled "The Roll of Government Checklist".
    Says the Constitution. Where in the Constitution does Congress or the President get the power to recover the economy? They don't. We are a nation that is supposed to be governed by this sacred document, and yet we trample on it over and over again.
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    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by DB20 View Post
    C'mon

    Hope and Change

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    Those didn't inspire you?

    The fact is that there are two kinds of people in the world.

    Those that sit around and bitch all day long, waiting for someone else to take care of them and those that see the world for what it is and make the necessary adaptations to maximize their own welfare and happiness.

    Sheese! Ain't that the truth....
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    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    Says the Constitution. Where in the Constitution does Congress or the President get the power to recover the economy? They don't. We are a nation that is supposed to be governed by this sacred document, and yet we trample on it over and over again.
    Thanks so much for making that point about the illusion advanced by the media and politicians in this country for so long, that the President's job is to somehow control the economy. So much malarkey, but the average American buys into it because they've been told that for so many years now.

    The President's job is clearly described in Article II of the Constitution, and nowhere in there does it say a word about controlling or regulating the economy. His job is to see that the laws of the country are faithfully enforced, and a few other specified duties.

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    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Thanks so much for making that point about the illusion advanced by the media and politicians in this country for so long, that the President's job is to somehow control the economy. So much malarkey, but the average American buys into it because they've been told that for so many years now.

    The President's job is clearly described in Article II of the Constitution, and nowhere in there does it say a word about controlling or regulating the economy. His job is to see that the laws of the country are faithfully enforced, and a few other specified duties.
    Does any President of this country have the power to enact certain duties and fees through regulation, rightly or wrongly in today's practice of governance?
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    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Does any President of this country have the power to enact certain duties and fees through regulation, rightly or wrongly in today's practice of governance?
    You can find the powers of POTUS by referring to Article II of the Constitution where they are listed.

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    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    More BS rhetoric....I swear, you progressives are just all about the bumper sticker slogans aren't you? Get a clue dude.
    so you would prefer to work for $4 a day?
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    I see a big problem with the idea that whatever the majority wants is OK.

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    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Oh. You would prefer our low-skill low-education workforce remain unemployed?


    The issue is not how low wages can go but whether or not and how high people can climb.
    Historically we have always had lot's of low skill low education folks, but somehow we managed to do a little better than third world wages.
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    I see a big problem with the idea that whatever the majority wants is OK.

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    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Then don't drive a BMW nor t-shirts made outside the usa.
    Most BMW's sold in America are made in either Germany, which has a higher effective minimum wage than in the US, or right here in my county. South Carolina is home to the largest BMW factory in the world, and it pays much higher wages than third world countries do.

    People who work for BMW seem to have no problem with paying a couple of bucks extra for a made in the US tee shirt. I know, because I sell tee shirts.
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    I see a big problem with the idea that whatever the majority wants is OK.

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