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    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Bullcrap speculation at its very best.
    Preach It! Let's bring the same level of success enjoyed by Detroit to WalMart!

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    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

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    Preach It! Let's bring the same level of success enjoyed by Detroit to WalMart!
    Now you blame unions for idiot conservative-based free trade policies. Mental failure of epic proportions.
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    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Except that fewer people would be content to keep stocking shelves for minimum if they couldn't live on the wages paid.
    perhaps. I think you have an exaggerated view of what it means to "live", or the lack of availability of illegal work. Additionally, there simply isn't that much the guy whose job it is to bring in the carts from the parking lot can do to make his labor worth significantly more money.

    I have no doubt that the process you are describing will occur for some people. But we have trained entire sections of our populace to a life of dependence and minimum effort.

    Instead of handouts, we need to be giving hand ups in the form of incentives to improve job skills, scholarships for low wage workers.
    Sure. While we're at it, let's pick everyone who fails out of school, and beat them half to death with whips every day until they start making straight A's. Beatings can continue until morale improves

    and you can't bomb your competition into ash without also bombing your trading partners into ash. It's a trade off.
    Sure. And then when they are rebuilding, gosh, they'll have to buy from you.....

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    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Now you blame unions for idiot conservative-based free trade policies. Mental failure of epic proportions.


    Nope. The Japanese build here. I blame unions for choking their companies and killing off innovation, ensuring their eventual stultification and death.

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    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    perhaps. I think you have an exaggerated view of what it means to "live", or the lack of availability of illegal work.



    Sure. While we're at it, let's pick everyone who fails out of school, and beat them half to death with whips every day until they start making straight A's. That'll incentivize 'em.
    Or, perhaps, simply not subsidize them and keep them content to do entry level work.



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    Sure. And then when they are rebuilding, gosh, they'll have to buy from you.....
    Yes, and have help rebuilding their countries, maybe while we are, at the same time building the interstate highway system and paying down the war debt, all the while paying higher wages that we can afford while not spending the cash necessary to do all the building and rebuilding.
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    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

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    Nope. The Japanese build here. I blame unions for choking their companies and killing off innovation, ensuring their eventual stultification and death.
    I'm sure you do blame unions. Unfortunately facts don't support your conclusion. The unions build the machine designs that are handed to them. They didn't design the crap that was built in the 1970's and 1980's. Non-union engineer and design idiots did... along with the stamp of approval by the non-union executives at those companies.
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    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I'm sure you do blame unions. Unfortunately facts don't support your conclusion. The unions build the machine designs that are handed to them.
    That is incorrect. Particularly with regards to new technology (which runs the risk of making protected jobs outmoded and unneccessary), Unions often exert powerful influence or outright control on company innovation.

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    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Or, perhaps, simply not subsidize them and keep them content to do entry level work.
    In which case my point will be proven - and there is nothing that forces Wal-Mart to raise wages for the guy bringing in the carts from the parking lot simply because he has stopped collecting food stamps.

    Yes, and have help rebuilding their countries, maybe while we are, at the same time building the interstate highway system and paying down the war debt, all the while paying higher wages that we can afford while not spending the cash necessary to do all the building and rebuilding.
    Don't forget slashing the federal budget by 75%

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    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Given that a negative effect on employment for low-skilled workers is the overwhelming conclusion of the evidence available and the basic application of the laws of supply and demand.



    C: A model that allows low-skilled workers to become higher-skilled workers through experience.

    What you miss is that the two models you propose are not mutually exclusive. Our society will pay little for low-value added labor, and highly for high-value-added labor.



    Sure. We have one of those. It is called "The Public Education System".



    it simply is not, and that is part of why Keynes' theory had such problems in the 70s.
    The conclusion was a small portion btw. Also, that is not what is happening as far as low skill workers moving up the ladder in many of these places that use the monopsony model like Walmart. Walmart relies on the churn and burn method.

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    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    That is incorrect. Particularly with regards to new technology (which runs the risk of making protected jobs outmoded and unneccessary), Unions often exert powerful influence or outright control on company innovation.
    No they do not. Your conspiracy theory is incorrect.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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