Page 11 of 22 FirstFirst ... 91011121321 ... LastLast
Results 101 to 110 of 212

Thread: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

  1. #101
    Sage

    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Location
    Tennessee
    Last Seen
    Today @ 10:29 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    21,834

    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Wal Mart customers want the lowest price on goods. So all Wal Mart is doing is staying competitive by giving their customers want they want. There is a Market for people wanting higher price made in America products and their stores that fill that need.
    Right, and there is nothing we can do about that unless we bring back tariffs or something. The point is their business model is a big reason why entire towns have been hollowed out. Obviously, we've decided as a country that meeting Walmart's business model (and the business interests of almost all makers of our consumer goods) of the cheapest possible price for all goods is good for America, and we're willing to watch our production, technology, know how, flee the country and the good jobs with them. But at least we could recognize what is happening and why.

    Maybe we might decide that our interests as a country really are NOT aligned with global behemoths who want to produce in lowest common denominator locations and import those products here with no tariff? I hope we do - take a cue from Hamilton and the Founders.

  2. #102
    American
    cpgrad08's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Lakewood,WA
    Last Seen
    10-18-17 @ 07:14 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    5,388
    Blog Entries
    10

    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Right, and there is nothing we can do about that unless we bring back tariffs or something. The point is their business model is a big reason why entire towns have been hollowed out. Obviously, we've decided as a country that meeting Walmart's business model (and the business interests of almost all makers of our consumer goods) of the cheapest possible price for all goods is good for America, and we're willing to watch our production, technology, know how, flee the country and the good jobs with them. But at least we could recognize what is happening and why.

    Maybe we might decide that our interests as a country really are NOT aligned with global behemoths who want to produce in lowest common denominator locations and import those products here with no tariff? I hope we do - take a cue from Hamilton and the Founders.
    I always find that silly, My small town of 7,000 had a super center wal mart opened few years ago and small businesses are thriving in my town.

  3. #103
    Villiage Idiot
    imagep's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Upstate SC
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:18 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    23,584

    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    I always find that silly, My small town of 7,000 had a super center wal mart opened few years ago and small businesses are thriving in my town.
    Depends on the town.

    A few years ago CNN did a special show on Walmart, and basically they concluded that the existence of Walmart improved our aggregate standard of living, but only marginally. Just by the law of averages, most communities are going to benefit a little, others may suffer a tad.

    In my community, most small businesses didn't suffer a lot due to Walmart moving in, but that was mostly because we already shopped at Walmart, just a different Walmart in a different community. However, shortly after that Lowes opened up across from Walmart, at which time we did lose both of the small hardware stores that we had, an oil and tire store, and most likely a handful of other small retailers that I wasn't aware of. Since we have a variety of other large employers in our county (although not located in my community), who have been expanding (BMW, Michelin, Amazon.com, etc), my community, which is a suburb of a small city, hasn't been hurt as hard as many small towns.
    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    ...I'm not interested in debating someone who is trolling for an argument....
    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    I see a big problem with the idea that whatever the majority wants is OK.

  4. #104
    American
    cpgrad08's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Lakewood,WA
    Last Seen
    10-18-17 @ 07:14 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    5,388
    Blog Entries
    10

    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Depends on the town.

    A few years ago CNN did a special show on Walmart, and basically they concluded that the existence of Walmart improved our aggregate standard of living, but only marginally. Just by the law of averages, most communities are going to benefit a little, others may suffer a tad.

    In my community, most small businesses didn't suffer a lot due to Walmart moving in, but that was mostly because we already shopped at Walmart, just a different Walmart in a different community. However, shortly after that Lowes opened up across from Walmart, at which time we did lose both of the small hardware stores that we had, an oil and tire store, and most likely a handful of other small retailers that I wasn't aware of. Since we have a variety of other large employers in our county (although not located in my community), who have been expanding (BMW, Michelin, Amazon.com, etc), my community, which is a suburb of a small city, hasn't been hurt as hard as many small towns.
    That's Capitalism.

  5. #105
    Sage
    j-mac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    South Carolina
    Last Seen
    Today @ 09:18 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    30,322

    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Only because we have a minimum wage which you support of course. Do you also support raising the minimum wage?
    Sure....I think that $7 what ever is archaic, and any business that is worried about employee turnover pays more than minimum wage anyway.
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

    Alexis de Tocqueville

  6. #106
    Sage
    j-mac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    South Carolina
    Last Seen
    Today @ 09:18 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    30,322

    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Depends on the town.

    A few years ago CNN did a special show on Walmart, and basically they concluded that the existence of Walmart improved our aggregate standard of living, but only marginally. Just by the law of averages, most communities are going to benefit a little, others may suffer a tad.

    In my community, most small businesses didn't suffer a lot due to Walmart moving in, but that was mostly because we already shopped at Walmart, just a different Walmart in a different community. However, shortly after that Lowes opened up across from Walmart, at which time we did lose both of the small hardware stores that we had, an oil and tire store, and most likely a handful of other small retailers that I wasn't aware of. Since we have a variety of other large employers in our county (although not located in my community), who have been expanding (BMW, Michelin, Amazon.com, etc), my community, which is a suburb of a small city, hasn't been hurt as hard as many small towns.
    Until you drive through Anderson, or Union county...
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

    Alexis de Tocqueville

  7. #107
    Global Moderator
    Moderator
    Helix's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Last Seen
    Today @ 11:37 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    37,112

    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

    WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class
    lol.

    welp, you're the captain of the nation's largest employer. perhaps you could attempt to remedy this situation.

  8. #108
    Sage
    j-mac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    South Carolina
    Last Seen
    Today @ 09:18 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    30,322

    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    No, me either. Walmart isn't to blame.

    My hope is that eventually world wide wages will rise closer to that of the US, at which time it will no longer be cost effective to import goods from around the world, and more manufacturing will come back to the US, ending our trade deficit.

    My expectation is that as that happens, we still won't have more jobs, because automation is going to gradually reduce the need for human labor.

    So to an extent, we either outsource to foreign countries, or we outsource to automation, the net result on jobs in the US is the same. Of course eliminating our trade deficit would be a plus, and those low wage countries are going to have to start developing their internal markets if they desire to continue to improve their standard of living and to provide ample jobs and decent wages for their people (of course decent wages results in an stronger internal market, so it's really a big spiral, we either spiral downward or upward).
    Developing internal markets takes a government that is willing to let free markets flourish doesn't it?
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

    Alexis de Tocqueville

  9. #109
    Sage


    Thoreau72's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Last Seen
    Today @ 11:14 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    20,295

    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    lol.

    welp, you're the captain of the nation's largest employer. perhaps you could attempt to remedy this situation.
    Yes, and a good start would be the paying of a decent wage, one allowing the support of a family.

  10. #110
    Sage
    j-mac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    South Carolina
    Last Seen
    Today @ 09:18 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    30,322

    Re: WAL-MART CEO: Things Aren't Getting Better For America's Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Yes, and a good start would be the paying of a decent wage, one allowing the support of a family.
    Not every job is designed to be a career, or support a family. A healthy economy has a progression of jobs available to its participants, from entry level, to career, and all in between. I don't think we want people to be complacent in working for a Walmart, or gas station, or convenience store for that matter do we?

    I mean, don't we want people that remain 'upwardly mobile' in terms of work, and innovation?
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

    Alexis de Tocqueville

Page 11 of 22 FirstFirst ... 91011121321 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •