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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over (part 1 of 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Hmm. This might throw a wrench into the 'this is the hottest summer' or 'month' predictions / reports.



    You think that the global prediction models may need a bit more cooking / work?
    As i understand things, "global warming" is a misleading term - the preferred term is "climate change", since "global warming" causes changes in weather that can make things colder or hotter depending on a ton of variables that I don't fully understand.

    I'm still not personally convinced that AGW is as much of an issue as some say - but I do not dispute that the climate is changing. I just don't think it's as significant or as problematic as is claimed by some.
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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over (part 1 of 2)

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    As i understand things, "global warming" is a misleading term - the preferred term is "climate change", since "global warming" causes changes in weather that can make things colder or hotter depending on a ton of variables that I don't fully understand.

    I'm still not personally convinced that AGW is as much of an issue as some say - but I do not dispute that the climate is changing. I just don't think it's as significant or as problematic as is claimed by some.
    You know, that's a pretty reasonable position. There is climate change, as the system was never in a static state. It may be even that the climate is warming. I remain unconvinced that it's 100% attributable to human activity. Until the climate models are actually accurate enough to predict anything with some sort of certainty, I'm not willing to make large impact policy decisions using them.
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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over (part 1 of 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    You know, that's a pretty reasonable position. There is climate change, as the system was never in a static state. It may be even that the climate is warming. I remain unconvinced that it's 100% attributable to human activity. Until the climate models are actually accurate enough to predict anything with some sort of certainty, I'm not willing to make large impact policy decisions using them.
    There is no debate for climate change that says 100% of it is due to human activity. The debate is if the majority of climate change is due to human activity. I don't fall into that category. climate change is happening, and I'm not convinced the majority of it is due to human activity and even if it was countries like china and Russia are not on board which would nullify ANYTHING the U.S. can do to try and combat such change. The U.s. is taking the hits while China and Russia are on free for all.
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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over (part 1 of 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    There is no debate for climate change that says 100% of it is due to human activity. The debate is if the majority of climate change is due to human activity. I don't fall into that category. climate change is happening, and I'm not convinced the majority of it is due to human activity and even if it was countries like china and Russia are not on board which would nullify ANYTHING the U.S. can do to try and combat such change. The U.s. is taking the hits while China and Russia are on free for all.
    Still though, there ARE things that can be done to minimize our impact on our own local ecosystem. Some of those have already taken place or are currently taking place...
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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over (part 1 of 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Still though, there ARE things that can be done to minimize our impact on our own local ecosystem. Some of those have already taken place or are currently taking place...
    There are things to minimize our impact (if there is some), however, even if we do the fact that other countries aren't nullify what we do and WE are taking the FULL impacts economically for it. In other words, we crumble and it doesn't do a lick of good anyway.

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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over (part 1 of 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    There are things to minimize our impact (if there is some), however, even if we do the fact that other countries aren't nullify what we do and WE are taking the FULL impacts economically for it. In other words, we crumble and it doesn't do a lick of good anyway.
    I was thinking more along the lines of preventing pollution of local ecosystems, not the large-scale anti-climate change measures I've heard some mention of.

    Had an odd thought just now though...in the future we'll be bombing factories in china to stop carbon emissions?
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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over (part 1 of 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I was thinking more along the lines of preventing pollution of local ecosystems, not the large-scale anti-climate change measures I've heard some mention of.

    Had an odd thought just now though...in the future we'll be bombing factories in china to stop carbon emissions?
    The U.s. is already doing most than any other nation. the fact the other nations aren't is going to nullify anything we do.

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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over (part 1 of 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The U.s. is already doing most than any other nation. the fact the other nations aren't is going to nullify anything we do.
    To some degree, on a global scale. We can have more impact on our local ecosystems though - at least the inland ones.
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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over (part 1 of 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    To some degree, on a global scale. We can have more impact on our local ecosystems though - at least the inland ones.
    We are already doing MORE than enough for OUR eco system though. We can't save the world by OUR actions alone theugh

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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over (part 1 of 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    We are already doing MORE than enough for OUR eco system though. We can't save the world by OUR actions alone though
    I'm not arguing that.
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