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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Personally, I believe there is at least significant global warming...but I am far from certain.

    Having said that, I think the government should take a definitive stand on what it believes is the case.

    I also think that if the government does (or ever does) believe that there is significant global warming going on - then they should decide on a formula to determine how 'polluting' individual companies/corporations are and then publish those findings on a monthly basis.

    Then I think they should do nothing (outside of environmental disasters obviously) and leave it up to the public to decide whether or not to boycott those companies that are the more egregious polluters.
    True, but sense we oscillate between a left right government, any consistency on climate change will be difficult.
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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    You're equat scientific accuracy to computer models built on corrupted data.

    You do realize that don't you ?
    No...carbon is a greenhouse gas, greenhouse gases cause the planet to heat, and we're releasing a very large amount of greenhouse gases. You can argue over the models being a degree off here or not taking something specific into account but there's no doubt we're doing something that is causing havoc to the planet's current climate.
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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    No...carbon is a greenhouse gas, greenhouse gases cause the planet to heat, and we're releasing a very large amount of greenhouse gases. You can argue over the models being a degree off here or not taking something specific into account but there's no doubt we're doing something that is causing havoc to the planet's current climate.

    Huh ?

    I'm referring to the " science " that is supposedly monitoring the increase in temperature.

    Your assertions should be backed by something objective, but without ACCURATE data your assertions are only opinions.

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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over

    I just want to thank the liberal, progressive, and militant members who absolutely proved my point in the op.

    Think about the responses so far...

    I posted a poll that simply said that proponents of AGW in this country were in the minority, and further gave my opinion as to how they would respond to this information. ie; dumb, inflexible, attacking the poll, or myself from a 'victim' standpoint....etc.

    They did exactly that.

    Now, we hear all the time in these debates how 'the science' is settled, and how 'a majority' agree with them. That is simply NOT true. So, instead of addressing the simple point of how that small part of the overall argument is shown so with this poll, the knee jerk reaction of the AGW disciple is to employ the tactics of personal destruction, rather than introspective response to bolster their case.

    I wasn't looking to have yet another thread arguing about all the facets of AGW, or whether or not it even exists as a response to man's actions, but rather trying to take small bites, we first have to agree that the so called science is settled. The majority of people in this poll say no.
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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I just want to thank the liberal, progressive, and militant members who absolutely proved my point in the op.

    Think about the responses so far...

    I posted a poll that simply said that proponents of AGW in this country were in the minority, and further gave my opinion as to how they would respond to this information. ie; dumb, inflexible, attacking the poll, or myself from a 'victim' standpoint....etc.

    They did exactly that.

    Now, we hear all the time in these debates how 'the science' is settled, and how 'a majority' agree with them. That is simply NOT true. So, instead of addressing the simple point of how that small part of the overall argument is shown so with this poll, the knee jerk reaction of the AGW disciple is to employ the tactics of personal destruction, rather than introspective response to bolster their case.

    I wasn't looking to have yet another thread arguing about all the facets of AGW, or whether or not it even exists as a response to man's actions, but rather trying to take small bites, we first have to agree that the so called science is settled. The majority of people in this poll say no.
    From ad Homs to straw men. Well done!

    Hint: a public opinion poll does not address whether the science is settled(it is not, but not in a way you understand), and no one is claiming a majority of any one except scientists agree with the science.
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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    From ad Homs to straw men. Well done!
    Neither was employed here, (except by you)...

    Hint: a public opinion poll does not address whether the science is settled(it is not, but not in a way you understand), and no one is claiming a majority of any one except scientists agree with the science.
    Are you serious....I can't even begin to count how many times I have been told in AGW debates right here at DP that "the majority of American's agree with the AGW side.."

    Also, I suggest you go back and read the poll and my writing...I am not saying that the science is settled or not. I am saying that a poll says that YOU saying that the science is settled is just not believed by a clear majority of Americans.
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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over

    What Global Warming cultists fail to see is that every one of their "solutions" to this debatable science involves implementing their most beloved left-wing measures. Red flag!

    Basically, if we destroy our economy ten times over and live like cavemen, we'll have fewer hurricanes. That seems to be the argument.

    If you came forth with REAL solutions, perhaps people would listen to your bought-and-paid-for scientists' claims more seriously. As it is, we might as well put Michael Moore and Bill Maher in charge of the decisions.

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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over

    What evidence do you have for that it will destroy the economy and make people live like cavemen?

    That today you have a global drastic increase in both solar and wind energy. Also look at solar energy, that have in a few years gone from being a small industry to being a so important industry that it almost started a huge trading war between China and the EU.

    World Solar Power Capacity Increased 35% In 2013 (Charts) | CleanTechnica

    2013 Wind Energy Installations Stall In U.S., Surge In China

    BBC News - EU and China reach deal in solar panel dispute

    Also a study last year estimated the cost of reducing C02 to only 1 % of GDP.

    Halving CO2 emissions by 2050: New report says it will cost $2 trillion a year

    You can also look at the cost for your Americans to be dependent on foreign oil. From the overthrow of democratic Iran government in the 1950 that lead the way to the Islamic revolution in the late 70's and USA gaining a new dangerous enemy. The oil crisis during the 1970. Two costly war with Iraq.

    USA also have to support and have military stationed Saud Arabia. One of the worst brutal dictatorship in the world. Also country of origin of Usama Bin Laden and most of the hijackers during 9/11. Also it's rich Saud Arabians that fund the radical Islamic schools in Pakistan, that is a breeding ground for terrorist.
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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    From highly insulting people that think that those that disagree with them are somehow just north of mentally handicapped, to the mockery of the disciple of Gorentology that comes at you with the viciousness of a typical cult member when their religion is under question, it is clear that the majority of voters in this country don't buy the lie that the case is settled, that the argument is over...

    Back to fringe obscurity GW lunatics.
    Whether its settled or not, what's frustrating to me is we should all agree that radical middle eastern extremists have painted a bulls eye on our backs and have targeted America. The one sure way to drive them into bankruptcy is by modernizing our transportation. In doing this, we simultaneously defund the brutal dictators that have more control over the US than any president since Dwight Eisenhower. We also end any "vital interest" need to be entangled in middle eastern affairs and marriages of convenience with homicidal tyrants. To complain its just to expensive is to ignore the business model of every new technology to hit the market since the personal computer: extensive at first but in short order just by being on the market prices drastically drop while the product drastically improves. To say its just too expensive is to completely ignore the costs of the war on terror and the war in Iraq, neither of which would have occurred if not for the indirect connection they have to our oil dependency. We have the power to defeat terrorism but it seems many of my conservative friends would rather not do that if it means cooperating with their fellow Americans with because our would be common objective is not driven by the same motive.

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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Neither was employed here, (except by you)...



    Are you serious....I can't even begin to count how many times I have been told in AGW debates right here at DP that "the majority of American's agree with the AGW side.."

    Also, I suggest you go back and read the poll and my writing...I am not saying that the science is settled or not. I am saying that a poll says that YOU saying that the science is settled is just not believed by a clear majority of Americans.
    Then you'll have no problem provinding a few examples of these frequent occurrences.
    A sizeable number of Americans believing they've been anally probed by aliens doesn't mean the science community agrees with them.
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