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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over (part 1 of 2)

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    Only in a liberal's la la land.
    I believe in personal responsibility, so I don't blame facts for my errors. Try it; you'll feel better.

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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over (part 1 of 2)

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    Only to those making excuses for their lack of facts. We all know reality has a liberal bias.
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    I believe in personal responsibility, so I don't blame facts for my errors. Try it; you'll feel better.
    Which facts lead you to believe that reality has a liberal bias?
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over (part 1 of 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Which facts lead you to believe that reality has a liberal bias?
    That's a bit of a joke, hence the .

    But if you can dispute the facts do so. Quit whining about the liberal media or liberal bias.

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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over (part 1 of 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That's a bit of a joke, hence the .

    But if you can dispute the facts do so. Quit whining about the liberal media or liberal bias.
    I thought it had already been clearly and thoroughly documented and demonstrated in other threads that the main stream media (BLSM) does indeed have a liberal bias.
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over (part 1 of 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    I thought it had already been clearly and thoroughly documented and demonstrated in other threads that the main stream media (BLSM) does indeed have a liberal bias.
    No, it hasn't. Most, likely all, of them use flawed logic, relying on polls and the wrong questions. I know of no study that actually answers the question.

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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over (part 1 of 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    I thought it had already been clearly and thoroughly documented and demonstrated in other threads that the main stream media (BLSM) does indeed have a liberal bias.
    Well, to use this thread as an example, it would certainly look to some conservatives that the media has a strong liberal bias. The media often presents AGW as simple fact - something that virtually all scientists agree upon. The conservatives here seem to disagree - with virtually no evidence to back them up.

    So since reality is on the 'liberal' side of things according to conservatives, and they consider a feverish fantasy to be 'reality', I can see why many, many conservatives would be convinced that media has a liberal bias. But it says much more about conservatives and their grounding in reality than it does about the media.
    Many Trump supporters have lots of problems, and those deplorables are bringing those problems to us. They’re racists. They’re misogynists. They’re islamophobic. They're xenophobes and homophobes. And some, I assume, are good people.

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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over (part 1 of 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, it hasn't. Most, likely all, of them use flawed logic, relying on polls and the wrong questions. I know of no study that actually answers the question.
    Referring to studies of the matter.

    THE ARGUMENT over whether the national press is dominated by liberals is over. Since 1962, there have been 11 surveys of the media that sought the political views of hundreds of journalists. In 1971, they were 53 percent liberal, 17 percent conservative. In a 1976 survey of the Washington press corps, it was 59 percent liberal, 18 percent conservative. A 1985 poll of 3,200 reporters found them to be self-identified as 55 percent liberal, 17 percent conservative. In 1996, another survey of Washington journalists pegged the breakdown as 61 percent liberal, 9 percent conservative. Now, the new study by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press found the national media to be 34 percent liberal and 7 percent conservative.

    Over 40-plus years, the only thing that's changed in the media's politics is that many national journalists have now cleverly decided to call themselves moderates. But their actual views haven't changed, the Pew survey showed. Their political beliefs are close to those of self-identified liberals and nowhere near those of conservatives. And the proportion of liberals to conservatives in the press, either 3-to-1 or 4-to-1, has stayed the same. That liberals are dominant is now beyond dispute.
    Liberal Media Evidence | The Weekly Standard

    To summarize the reporting on the studies:
    1971, 53 percent liberal, 17 percent conservative
    1976, 59 percent liberal, 18 percent conservative
    1985, 55 percent liberal, 17 percent conservative

    Doesn't seem to move much even over the 15 years cited.

    I'd have to agree with the conclusion: "That liberals are dominant is now beyond dispute."

    Another study:
    Admissions of Liberal Bias. A number of journalists have admitted that the majority of their brethren approach the news from a liberal angle. During the 2004 presidential campaign, for example, Newsweek’s Evan Thomas predicted that sympathetic media coverage would boost Kerry’s vote by “maybe 15 points,” which he later revised to five points. In 2005, ex-CBS News President Van Gordon Sauter confessed he stopped watching his old network: “The unremitting liberal orientation finally became too much for me.” See Section
    Media Bias Basics Specifically the page: Media Bias Basics - Admissions of Liberal Bias

    And finally, the journalists in the news media themselves acknowledge that they have a liberal bias.

    Top journalists from The New York Times, NBC News and CNN acknowledged Wednesday that, generally speaking, the national media have a liberal bias.
    On a Playbook Breakfast panel, the Times' Peter Baker and Mark Leibovich, NBC's Kelly O'Donnell and CNN's Jake Tapper all said "yes" when asked if the news media lean left — though all agreed it was a nuanced issue having more to do with journalists' life experiences than with any particular agenda.

    "Most of my colleagues, I have no idea what their politics are. ... But think about it: I live in northwest Washington, none of my neighbors are evangelical Christians, I don't know a lot of people in my kid's preschool who are pro-life," Leibovich said. "When you have conversations, at all the newspapers I've worked at, about politics — it doesn't happen often — but you see clues that there is absolutely a left-wing bias."
    Journalist consensus: Media lean left - POLITICO.com

    You still refute that the news media a liberal bias? I guess you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

    By the way, I don't disagree with you that much of the news media do use flawed logic.
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over (part 1 of 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, it hasn't. Most, likely all, of them use flawed logic, relying on polls and the wrong questions. I know of no study that actually answers the question.
    Yes, of course it's flawed logic, relying on polls and the wrong questions. That's the substance of liberal bias. You could have added that they censor much of the news from the American people and only show one side of a debate.

    Do you believe that an inexperienced hustler like Barack Obama could ever have been elected without media bias???

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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over (part 1 of 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Referring to studies of the matter.

    Liberal Media Evidence | The Weekly Standard

    To summarize the reporting on the studies:
    1971, 53 percent liberal, 17 percent conservative
    1976, 59 percent liberal, 18 percent conservative
    1985, 55 percent liberal, 17 percent conservative

    Doesn't seem to move much even over the 15 years cited.

    I'd have to agree with the conclusion: "That liberals are dominant is now beyond dispute."

    Another study:
    Media Bias Basics Specifically the page: Media Bias Basics - Admissions of Liberal Bias

    And finally, the journalists in the news media themselves acknowledge that they have a liberal bias.

    Journalist consensus: Media lean left - POLITICO.com

    You still refute that the news media a liberal bias? I guess you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

    By the way, I don't disagree with you that much of the news media do use flawed logic.
    All of those are flawed, thought complaining about bias and using the Weekly Standard is funny.

    Being liberal doesn't mean you're biased in your reporting, so throw that out. No one can admit for others, so a few saying it is so doesn't make it so. So throw that silliness out. So, I repeat, I have not seen a valid study.

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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over (part 1 of 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, of course it's flawed logic, relying on polls and the wrong questions. That's the substance of liberal bias. You could have added that they censor much of the news from the American people and only show one side of a debate.

    Do you believe that an inexperienced hustler like Barack Obama could ever have been elected without media bias???
    it is flawed logic and I have explained each one presented many times. It isn't like I didn't show why. And nothing accurate is censored. the trouble is your side not only wants your bias front ant and center, you often don't care if it's accurate or not. Just say dumb exaggerated ****, like Fox, and you won't call it biased.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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