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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over (part 1 of 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    You were deliberately misrepresenting my argument, which was an analogy in choosing between art/philosophy majors and car mechanics in understanding car repair. So why, in that analogy, are you choosing art philosophy majors in better understanding car repair?
    No, I am not choosing art/philosophy majors, per your analogy.

    Re-read the list of the learned scientists that oppose various parts of the climate change hypothesis.

    I don't understand how to continue to miss-characterize this list of learned scientists as 'art/philosophy' in your analogy. They are anything but. They are also car mechanics, in your analogy.
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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over (part 1 of 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    List of scientists opposing the mainstream scientific assessment of global warming - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I'm not seeing any art majors in there. So that'd be another false claim on your part?

    It's a small list and not representative of the whole, and many also dispute the list. But the poster you're discussing is likely thinking of this:

    Since the group was nice enough to list all 31,000 signers, including the dead people, let's take a look at the qualifications of three randomly-selected "climate experts."

    W. Kline Bolton, M.D. is a professor of medicine and Nephrology Division Chief at the University of Virginia. Nephrology deals with the study of the function and diseases of the kidney.
    Zhonggang Zeng is one of the 9,000 with a PhD. He is a professor of mathematics at Northeastern Illinois University. His most recent publication is entitled "Computing multiple roots of inexact polynomials."
    Hub Hougland is a dentist in Muncie, Indiana. He was inducted into the Indiana Basketball Hall of Fame last year.

    31,000 "Scientists" (Some Dead) Refute Global Warming

    Deniers always seem to inflate the small dissent there is and how much they dissent.

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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over (part 1 of 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    No, I am not choosing art/philosophy majors, per your analogy.

    Re-read the list of the learned scientists that oppose various parts of the climate change hypothesis.

    I don't understand how to continue to miss-characterize this list of learned scientists as 'art/philosophy' in your analogy. They are anything but. They are also car mechanics, in your analogy.
    One more thing:

    It is not "fair to say the science is in dispute," as if there are good arguments on both sides. Rather, there is significant scientific consensus that human beings are contributing to global warming.

    Do scientists disagree about global warming? | PolitiFact

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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    You're funnier than you are educated, but not very funny.
    Awww...What's the matter Mr. "Progressive".... Not able to take a little ribbing eh?
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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over (part 1 of 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    One more thing:

    It is not "fair to say the science is in dispute," as if there are good arguments on both sides. Rather, there is significant scientific consensus that human beings are contributing to global warming.

    Do scientists disagree about global warming? | PolitiFact
    Noted that the Politifact link is discounted due to their documented pro-liberal bias.
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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Seems like a guy that disputes the conclusions of most scientists might want to UNDERSTAND the scientific issues before he comments.

    But I guess you think that respiration = disruption in the carbon cycle....

    I've heard goofier things coming out of the AGW crowd. Such as we should all stop eating meat because the cattle cause global warming...
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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over (part 1 of 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It's a small list and not representative of the whole, and many also dispute the list. But the poster you're discussing is likely thinking of this:

    Since the group was nice enough to list all 31,000 signers, including the dead people, let's take a look at the qualifications of three randomly-selected "climate experts."

    W. Kline Bolton, M.D. is a professor of medicine and Nephrology Division Chief at the University of Virginia. Nephrology deals with the study of the function and diseases of the kidney.
    Zhonggang Zeng is one of the 9,000 with a PhD. He is a professor of mathematics at Northeastern Illinois University. His most recent publication is entitled "Computing multiple roots of inexact polynomials."
    Hub Hougland is a dentist in Muncie, Indiana. He was inducted into the Indiana Basketball Hall of Fame last year.

    31,000 "Scientists" (Some Dead) Refute Global Warming

    Deniers always seem to inflate the small dissent there is and how much they dissent.
    None of those 3 that you mentioned are on the list that I posted. My conclusion is that these are 2 different lists, so applying your disclaimer reference to the WIKIPedia list does not apply.
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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I've heard goofier things coming out of the AGW crowd. Such as we should all stop eating meat because the cattle cause global warming...
    Kernel of truth in there. Methane gas (cow farts - [all farts? So everyone's gotta hold'em? ] ) are like 20 times as bad for green house warming than CO2, from what I recall.
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Please dont fall into his fantasy of saying NOAA 'made a mistake'.

    NOAA reclassified this because of new and improved historical data that they have uncovered.

    Its really only of significance to the deniers, anyway. A record of the hottest month in the US (not the globe) vs. one that was virtually identically hot is just an outlier in a highly variable set of data. But when the outliers tend to bunch up in a single decade, decade after decade, in the US as well as the world... thats a signal.
    LoL... they misrepresent everything, geez. I should have known though they do this as one of their standard practices. I'm not sure if its just an opportunity to distort or if they actually believe when a better method is rolled out it means the old method was a scam and also the new method is probably also a scam because in their fantastical perfect world everything should be right in raw format. The denier logic starts to get thick and circular.

    Yeah the overall trend of the data is far more indicative than a single data point... much ado about nothing.

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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Awww...What's the matter Mr. "Progressive".... Not able to take a little ribbing eh?
    Meh, just wasn't very funny. Being that methane is a far more sensitive greenhouse gas I suppose you should stop talking too.

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