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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over

    Quote Originally Posted by cabse5 View Post
    Mutation is not evolution. Did matter appear from nowhere and mutate to multi-celled organisms like humans? No, that theory hasn't been proven - with any certainty.

    Although 'evolution-believing' politicians haven't been as successful as 'AGW-believing' politicians in making their ideologies law...

    Evolution for that matter is still theory as is the explanation for the origins of our Universe.

    But Creationist are still treated like scientifically illiterate back woods hicks.

    Of-course that can be attributed to the innate toxic nature of the type of people who generally oppose Creationism.

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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over

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    Evolution for that matter is still theory as is the explanation for the origins of our Universe.

    But Creationist are still treated like scientifically illiterate back woods hicks.

    Of-course that can be attributed to the innate toxic nature of the type of people who generally oppose Creationism.
    Creationism is just as scientifically sound as global warming denialism.

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    Creationism is just as scientifically sound as global warming denialism.

    Problem is YOU can't scientifically refute creationism nor can you prove the existence of AGW.

    Well unless you trot out some Computer models that were built on corrupted data.

    You people constantly rely on the pretense that you're ideological driven agendas are somehow based on scientifically sound principles.

    But nothing is further from the truth.

    The NOAA just back tracked on their assertion that July 2012 was the hottest month on record.

    How is that possible ? If they used Scientific principles to arrive at that conclusion how could they have been so wrong ?

    Maybe its because they used the pretense of Science and just fudged the numbers instead of using accurate temperature data.

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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Problem is YOU can't scientifically refute creationism nor can you prove the existence of AGW.

    Well unless you trot out some Computer models that were built on corrupted data.

    You people constantly rely on the pretense that you're ideological driven agendas are somehow based on scientifically sound principles.

    But nothing is further from the truth.

    The NOAA just back tracked on their assertion that July 2012 was the hottest month on record.

    How is that possible ? If they used Scientific principles to arrive at that conclusion how could they have been so wrong ?

    Maybe its because they used the pretense of Science and just fudged the numbers instead of using accurate temperature data.
    Says you can't believe the data, scientists fudge the numbers.


    Says look at this data the scientists just reported. It shows they fudged the numbers!
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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Says you can't believe the data, scientists fudge the numbers.


    Says look at this data the scientists just reported. It shows they fudged the numbers!
    So the NOAA didn't fudge temperature data when they falsely claimed that July 2012 was the hottest month on record ?

    Of-course they did

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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    So the NOAA didn't fudge temperature data when they falsely claimed that July 2012 was the hottest month on record ?

    Of-course they did
    Says: The NOAA fudges the data.

    Says: You can tell by looking at the NOAA data.
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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Problem is YOU can't scientifically refute creationism nor can you prove the existence of AGW.

    Well unless you trot out some Computer models that were built on corrupted data.

    You people constantly rely on the pretense that you're ideological driven agendas are somehow based on scientifically sound principles.

    But nothing is further from the truth.

    The NOAA just back tracked on their assertion that July 2012 was the hottest month on record.

    How is that possible ? If they used Scientific principles to arrive at that conclusion how could they have been so wrong ?

    Maybe its because they used the pretense of Science and just fudged the numbers instead of using accurate temperature data.
    I can't but the scientists that deal with these things can. Again, you cannot "prove" anything in science. You can only support ideas with evidence. Gravity is not "proven", our understanding of the phenomena simply allows us to navigate the characteristics that can be reliably used again and again. We can apply maths to an object rolling down a plank at a certain angle and figure its speed and acceleration. These systems work so we use them. How gravity actually works we don't really know, gravitons? Even if we knew that we still couldn't "prove" gravity because of other unknowns. What are gravitons made of? What are the things gravitons are made of made of? How do all these things work together? Where did they come from? You can't prove anything in science, you can only gravitate towards the seemingly best ideas.

    Btw, you don't capitalize science and scientific, it is not a magical entity like Jesus.

    So... you believe mainstream science is all corrupt, so who are the real scientists? What are the true scientific institutions?

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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Says: The NOAA fudges the data.

    Says: You can tell by looking at the NOAA data.


    Nice.

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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    I can't but the scientists that deal with these things can. Again, you cannot "prove" anything in science. You can only support ideas with evidence. Gravity is not "proven", our understanding of the phenomena simply allows us to navigate the characteristics that can be reliably used again and again. We can apply maths to an object rolling down a plank at a certain angle and figure its speed and acceleration. These systems work so we use them. How gravity actually works we don't really know, gravitons? Even if we knew that we still couldn't "prove" gravity because of other unknowns. What are gravitons made of? What are the things gravitons are made of made of? How do all these things work together? Where did they come from? You can't prove anything in science, you can only gravitate towards the seemingly best ideas.

    Btw, you don't capitalize science and scientific, it is not a magical entity like Jesus.

    So... you believe mainstream science is all corrupt, so who are the real scientists? What are the true scientific institutions?
    Yes, one can prove a scientific theory. One has proven scientific theories. It's the 'drive' of scientists to prove or disprove a scientific theory.

    For example, Einstein eventually concocted his general theory of relativity because he didn't accept the concept of ether postulated by other scientists. Einstein's theoretical Theory Of General Relativity had very little empirical evidence (much like how AGW has been postulated to describe increases in global warming). Sidenote: laws weren't enacted as a result of these theoretical general relativity claims made in 1916?, while, conversely, laws have been implemented, today, to reduce the theoretical effects of AGW on global warming.

    General relativity experiments showed light appeared, occasionally, to bend in close proximity to a heavenly object, as general relativity's theories predicted it ALWAYS would bend. It wasn't until 1959 (using an experiment to test the bending of light during a solar eclipse) that light always bent in response to a heavenly object as theorized in Einstein's Theory Of General Relativity. General relativity was on the way to being verified. The scientific community tested Einstein's theories for approximately 45 years before they gave his theories some credence. IMO, biases of the scientific community were as strong in 1916? as they are today. The scientific community wanted, badly, to disprove Einstein's Theory Of General Relativity in 1916? as much as they want to prove AGW's effect on global warming,today.

    For example, why scientists haven't declared the randomness of the creation of the universe. No scientist has isolated that primeval boson particle using, for example, The Hadron Collider.
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    Re: Only 20% Think Debate About Global Warming Is Over

    Quote Originally Posted by cabse5 View Post
    Mutation is not evolution. Did matter appear from nowhere and mutate to multi-celled organisms like humans? No, that theory hasn't been proven - with any certainty.

    Although 'evolution-believing' politicians haven't been as successful as 'AGW-believing' politicians in making their ideologies law...
    Wait, so you don't accept the scientific fact of evolution bro?
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    Why aren't monkeys having human children?

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