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    Re: Iraq: 'terrorists' seize ex-chemical weapons site

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    They were reported. They just were not what Bush claimed. Old, degraded weapons do not match the claim of growing and gathering. So, let's not pretend otherwise.
    Then maybe you would like to explain why the AP felt concerned enough to publish is warning?

    Perhaps because no one (except maybe the Iraqis) knows what is REALLY in there??

    Of course Liberal will be more than willing to believe whatever BS excuse comes forward this time around. How often do you guys accept lies during an average day?
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    Re: Iraq: 'terrorists' seize ex-chemical weapons site

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    These aren't WMDs because they aren't ****ing weapons. They're garbage. Toxic garbage.

    Everyone knows there were chemicals weapons in Iraq because we gave them to Saddam Hussein. But "Saddam Hussein used to have WMDs" is not why we invaded Iraq.
    The Kurds know from experience. And guess what... we are still giving Iraq weapons.
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    Re: Iraq: 'terrorists' seize ex-chemical weapons site

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Then maybe you would like to explain why the AP felt concerned enough to publish is warning?

    Perhaps because no one (except maybe the Iraqis) knows what is REALLY in there??

    Of course Liberal will be more than willing to believe whatever BS excuse comes forward this time around. How often do you guys accept lies during an average day?
    No, people know. But with equipment, you have a greater chance of doing something noteworthy. It is also interesting and will sell papers. Your side was wrong, so just admit it already.

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    Re: Iraq: 'terrorists' seize ex-chemical weapons site

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, people know. But with equipment, you have a greater chance of doing something noteworthy. It is also interesting and will sell papers. Your side was wrong, so just admit it already.
    You have no idea what the truth is so, how could I be wrong?
    Besides, YOUR side voted overwhelmingly to go to war.
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    Re: Iraq: 'terrorists' seize ex-chemical weapons site

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Actually, I did not understand it that way. It was WMD. That the Secretary of State did that horrid presentation did indicate that nukes were a problem. But they were never the only or even main reason.
    Well the implication was that they had new information about an immediate threat, Saddam used chemical weapons in the 80s and Dick Cheney knew that better than most,

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    Re: Iraq: 'terrorists' seize ex-chemical weapons site

    for anyone who is interested here's some info about different dirty bomb materials [hello, NSA]
    ...dirty bombs do not use fissile material. ... These materials...are not radioactive enough. Their radioactive emissions don't travel far and are blocked by simple barriers, including skin and clothing. A dirty bomb would use small amounts of highly radioactive materials such as cesium or cobalt, not uranium. Even specks of these elements send out deadly gamma rays that penetrate walls and bodies causing immediate injury. The Federation of American Scientists has calculated that a mere 41 grams (1.4 ounces) of cesium-137 in a dirty bomb could contaminate most of Manhattan. By contrast, it would take 1,460 tons of low-enriched uranium to get the same levels of radiation.



    Home > Programs > Strategic Security > Nuclear Information Project > Non-Proliferation and Arms Control

    Uranium and Dirty Bombs
    Even tiny amounts of a material with a half life of days will be intensely radioactive because the material is disintegrating so fast. It will not, however, be a good dirty bomb material because too much will decay while the bomb is being built. Even if the bomb disperses the material, just waiting several days for the material to decay naturally will allow people to return to the contaminated areas. At the opposite extreme, radioactive materials with extremely long half lives just do not decay quickly enough to cause much radiation. Looked at another way, to get dangerous levels of radiation requires huge quantities of material if the material decays very slowly. Uranium is more than 99% U-238, which has a half life of almost five billion years
    Code:
    IsotopePrimary RadiationWeight of 1 CurieWeight of 3500 Curies
    Americum-241                      alpha                      0.30 grams               1.05 kilograms
    Cobalt-60                            gamma                    0.91 milligrams         3.20 grams
    Californium-252                     alpha                      1.88 milligrams         6.59 grams
    Cesium-137                          beta/gamma           11.8 milligrams           41.40 grams
    Iridium-192                        beta/gamma             0.11 milligrams           0.39 grams
    Plutonium-239                       alpha                     16.8 grams               58.70 kilograms
    Plutonium-240                       alpha                      4.54 grams              15.90 kilograms
    Radium-226                          alpha                      1.04 grams                3.64 kilograms
    Strontium-90                        beta                       7.17 milligrams         25.1 grams
    Uranium-238                         alpha                      3.06 tons                  10.7 thousand tons
    Depleted Uranium (0.2%)             alpha                       2.10 tons                   7.35 thousand tons
    Natural Uranium (0.70%)            alpha                      1.50 tons                   5.24 thousand tons
    Commercial Uranium (5%)             alpha                          0.42 tons                      1.46 thousand tons


    We're talking about 900 lbs of yellow cake per a single curie.
    And if it's enriched to U 238 we're talking 6700 lbs of enriched uranium per single curie.

    It doesn't seem that turning this yellow cake into a dirty bomb is going to be reasonably feasible. Certainly more could be done with the same resources.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Iraq: 'terrorists' seize ex-chemical weapons site

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    You have no idea what the truth is so, how could I be wrong?
    Besides, YOUR side voted overwhelmingly to go to war.
    No, they voted to let Bush decide. Do we really want to cover that ground again? Just admit your error.

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    Re: Iraq: 'terrorists' seize ex-chemical weapons site

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    The Kurds know from experience. And guess what... we are still giving Iraq weapons.
    The Kurds also know what smallpox does from experience. That doesn't mean that's something to worry about in 2014.

    This is a stockpile of things that aren't weapons anymore.
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    Re: Iraq: 'terrorists' seize ex-chemical weapons site

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Well the implication was that they had new information about an immediate threat, Saddam used chemical weapons in the 80s and Dick Cheney knew that better than most,
    And they still had had chemical weapons, when they threw out the UN inspectors in 1995 (date from memory).

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    Re: Iraq: 'terrorists' seize ex-chemical weapons site

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    And they still had had chemical weapons, when they threw out the UN inspectors in 1995 (date from memory).
    Left over degrading and not growing and gathering.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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