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China thinks it can defeat America in battle

shrubnose

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The bad news first. The Peoples Republic of China now believes that it can successfully prevent the United States from intervening in the event of a Chinese invasion of Taiwan or some other military assault by Beijing.

Now the good news. China is wrong.--And for one major reason.It apparently disregards the decisive power of Americas nuclear-powered submarines.

Read more here: China thinks it can defeat America in battle - The Week




The USA will remain the only real world power for the foreseeable future.
And one of the main reasons for that is its submarine fleet.
 
No nation is going to militarily challenge the United States while Obama is working so hard to destroy it from within.

Obama and his accelerating destruction of our military and our culture is the best friend the enemies of America ever had.
 
No nation is going to militarily challenge the United States while Obama is working so hard to destroy it from within.

Obama and his accelerating destruction of our military and our culture is the best friend the enemies of America ever had.

Talk about your hyperbole.
 
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Now the good news. China is wrong.--And for one major reason.It apparently disregards the decisive power of Americas nuclear-powered submarines.

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'Problem is that that type of delusion is very human and defines a very precarious game. It was that structure that lead the Germans and Japanese into WW2. And while the US would very probably win it would live in a pile of cinders while it waited for Nuclear Winter to come to an end.
 
How will a submarine, nuclear or otherwise, prevent an invasion over a 100-mile strait?
 
China thinks it can defeat America in battle - The Week

I wanted to cope the link, use the OP if you want to read it.

To paraphrase; Please don't scrap our sub fleet as there is a role for it honest!

If there was a battle between Taiwan and China my money is on Taiwan having the most and by far the best smart drones launched from deep bunkers and able to communicate with their bases via secure satellite systems when they needed to although as semi autonomous fire and forget till it calls you up with the strike images weapons they would not need to talk to base often.

Battle has been won by the side with the best tech heads since the industrial revolution. Just because guerrilla wars have been unwinable with these high tec toys does not change the situation regarding conventional battle.
 
'Problem is that that type of delusion is very human and defines a very precarious game. It was that structure that lead the Germans and Japanese into WW2. And while the US would very probably win it would live in a pile of cinders while it waited for Nuclear Winter to come to an end.

I hope they were just referring to the subs being nuclear powered and the subs can conventionally stop them and not referring to the use of Nukes.
 
How will a submarine, nuclear or otherwise, prevent an invasion over a 100-mile strait?

By sinking the ships.

The fat that if the Chinese can manage to get air superiority over Taiwan they can para drop and then fly the war toys in seems to have escaped the sub fans. Not that they could ever do that today.
 
All China has to do is wait for something to break on one of these submarines. Without China selling us a replacement part, our fleet would be doomed, no doubt.
 
Obama isn't going to try and stop them, so they won't get the chance to find out.
 
The bad news first. The Peoples Republic of China now believes that it can successfully prevent the United States from intervening in the event of a Chinese invasion of Taiwan or some other military assault by Beijing.

Now the good news. China is wrong.--And for one major reason.It apparently disregards the decisive power of Americas nuclear-powered submarines.

Read more here: China thinks it can defeat America in battle - The Week




The USA will remain the only real world power for the foreseeable future.
And one of the main reasons for that is its submarine fleet.

The US may be able to win a battle, especially at sea, but on land and even in the air and an overall war... nope. Reason... China 1.5 billion people, USA 320 million.

But saying that, China has zero reason to invade Taiwan. Why? There is tons of business going both ways and it would cost the Chinese economy billions if they did so.
 
The bad news first. The Peoples Republic of China now believes that it can successfully prevent the United States from intervening in the event of a Chinese invasion of Taiwan or some other military assault by Beijing.

Now the good news. China is wrong.--And for one major reason.It apparently disregards the decisive power of Americas nuclear-powered submarines.

Read more here: China thinks it can defeat America in battle - The Week




The USA will remain the only real world power for the foreseeable future.
And one of the main reasons for that is its submarine fleet.


I'm not interested in testing the theory though Shrub!! :)
 
The bad news first. The Peoples Republic of China now believes that it can successfully prevent the United States from intervening in the event of a Chinese invasion of Taiwan or some other military assault by Beijing.

Now the good news. China is wrong.--And for one major reason.It apparently disregards the decisive power of Americas nuclear-powered submarines.

Read more here: China thinks it can defeat America in battle - The Week




The USA will remain the only real world power for the foreseeable future.
And one of the main reasons for that is its submarine fleet.
No, China would win. We are constrained by lawyers and politicians in how we would wage war. They wouldn't be. We lose.
 
The USA has 5, 113 nuclear weapons and it could utterly destroy China and any other country on this planet.

Tell the Chinese to bring it on, we've got something for them.
 
No, China would win. We are constrained by lawyers and politicians in how we would wage war. They wouldn't be.
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I don't think so.

I believe that the USA would make the Chinese sorry that they were ever born.

Lets wait and see what happens. I'd like to see at least one nuclear war before I die.
 
China loves to shoot its mouth off but let's face it, they havent been in a real shooting war since Korea (the big incident with Vietnam doesnt count since it didnt last long)- their troops arent battle tested so they could just cut and run for all we know.
 
I don't think so.

I believe that the USA would make the Chinese sorry that they were ever born.

Lets wait and see what happens. I'd like to see at least one nuclear war before I die.
That last statement shows you're either trolling or have zero clue what you speak of.
 
The bad news first. The Peoples Republic of China now believes that it can successfully prevent the United States from intervening in the event of a Chinese invasion of Taiwan or some other military assault by Beijing.

Now the good news. China is wrong.--And for one major reason.It apparently disregards the decisive power of Americas nuclear-powered submarines.

Read more here: China thinks it can defeat America in battle - The Week




The USA will remain the only real world power for the foreseeable future.
And one of the main reasons for that is its submarine fleet.

I guess really need to talk to the Japs, as they learned first hand we WILL use nukes. We are the only ones that have used them in war. The Chinese might want to bear that in mind. They also might want to bear in mind we can literally turn their entire country into a single large, glow in the dark, self heated, glass parking lot.
 
I don't believe that the USA will ever get involved in a ground war with China, but there more to winning battles than numbers.
 
'Problem is that that type of delusion is very human and defines a very precarious game. It was that structure that lead the Germans and Japanese into WW2. And while the US would very probably win it would live in a pile of cinders while it waited for Nuclear Winter to come to an end.

Somehow I doubt there would be any Chinese around to point that irony out.
 
I hope they were just referring to the subs being nuclear powered and the subs can conventionally stop them and not referring to the use of Nukes.

If an autocracy is going down they are dangerous.
 
The bad news first. The Peoples Republic of China now believes that it can successfully prevent the United States from intervening in the event of a Chinese invasion of Taiwan or some other military assault by Beijing.

Now the good news. China is wrong.--And for one major reason.It apparently disregards the decisive power of Americas nuclear-powered submarines.

Read more here: China thinks it can defeat America in battle - The Week




The USA will remain the only real world power for the foreseeable future.
And one of the main reasons for that is its submarine fleet.

China says a log of things. Still, regardless of ability, I don't think we'd press China if they went to take on Taiwan.
 
An old fashioned military battle between the US and China? Not going to happen, and a darned good thing. Imagine two nuclear powers, one with over a billion people, in a knock down drag out war! It would set civilization back centuries.

No, the real battle is economic, and China definitely has the upper hand currently.
 
I have no doubt that our politicians can lose a war to anyone. The lost to Iraq didn't they?
 
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