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    Re: China thinks it can defeat America in battle

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    'Problem is that that type of delusion is very human and defines a very precarious game. It was that structure that lead the Germans and Japanese into WW2. And while the US would very probably win it would live in a pile of cinders while it waited for Nuclear Winter to come to an end.
    Somehow I doubt there would be any Chinese around to point that irony out.
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    Re: China thinks it can defeat America in battle

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    I hope they were just referring to the subs being nuclear powered and the subs can conventionally stop them and not referring to the use of Nukes.
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    Re: China thinks it can defeat America in battle

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    The bad news first. The Peoples Republic of China now believes that it can successfully prevent the United States from intervening in the event of a Chinese invasion of Taiwan or some other military assault by Beijing.

    Now the good news. China is wrong.--And for one major reason.It apparently disregards the decisive power of Americas nuclear-powered submarines.

    Read more here: China thinks it can defeat America in battle - The Week




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    China says a log of things. Still, regardless of ability, I don't think we'd press China if they went to take on Taiwan.
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    Re: China thinks it can defeat America in battle

    An old fashioned military battle between the US and China? Not going to happen, and a darned good thing. Imagine two nuclear powers, one with over a billion people, in a knock down drag out war! It would set civilization back centuries.

    No, the real battle is economic, and China definitely has the upper hand currently.
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    Re: China thinks it can defeat America in battle

    I have no doubt that our politicians can lose a war to anyone. The lost to Iraq didn't they?
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    Re: China thinks it can defeat America in battle

    I think we are looking at a "mutually assured destruction" situation if we ever go to war with China. There would be only losers.

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    Re: China thinks it can defeat America in battle

    When you are weak project strength. When you are are strong feign weakness.

    Let them think whatever they'd like.

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    Re: China thinks it can defeat America in battle

    Correct.

    Anyone who thinks that the USA won't be the first country to use nukes should check with Japan.

    The USA came mighty close to launching a first strike back during the Cuban missile crisis in 1962.

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    Re: China thinks it can defeat America in battle

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    The US may be able to win a battle, especially at sea, but on land and even in the air and an overall war... nope. Reason... China 1.5 billion people, USA 320 million.

    But saying that, China has zero reason to invade Taiwan. Why? There is tons of business going both ways and it would cost the Chinese economy billions if they did so.
    Bodies aren't going to win conflict like this. We can stop the entire Chinese Army using nothing more than high altitude bombers dropping smart bombs. Throw 500,000,000 foot soldiers onto the field of battle and all you do is lose them. Send in Chinese tanks and you get scrap metal. Send in the Chinese Air Force and you have Chinese fireworks. We can sustain complete air and land superiority through our air craft carriers and long range high altitude bombers. We can cripple China's manufacturing infrastructure with targeted strikes on a dozen or so hydroelectric dams, causing massive damage to both their power generation capacity, their agriculture (loss of irrigation water) and the damage that the ensuing flooding would cause. We would have their satellite communications terminated within a matter of a few hours, their landlines crippled about as fast (high-altitude bombers dropping smart bombs on transmission hubs). Sorry folks, but a war with China has ONE outcome and that is that China loses. This isn't patriotism, nationalism, or any other 'ism", it's simple facts. We are FAR ahead of the Chinese in military tech and in a fight with us, they have no chance of winning.
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    Re: China thinks it can defeat America in battle

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    No, China would win. We are constrained by lawyers and politicians in how we would wage war. They wouldn't be. We lose.
    You forgot to mention Obama would also purge the rest of the remaining high ranking military officers who disagreed with him over the issue.
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