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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    Quote Originally Posted by csbrown28 View Post
    Your right, I don't know what happened, I'm judging based on what I've seen in the video. Maybe she had a gun or a knife, maybe she stabbed a baby in the face. I don't know, but I doubt it.

    What I do know, according to CHP is that she is 51 years old and was walking around dazed in traffic on a freeway and didn't respond to the officers demands.

    I'll make a deal with you, if she committed a serious and violent crime (pushing a police officer doesn't qualify in this case), I'll apologize to you, in my sig, but if she didn't you can apologize to me. Deal? I won't hold my breath.
    Apoligize for proferring to tazer rather than fist-fight her? That's nothing to apologize for.

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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Apoligize for proferring to tazer rather than fist-fight her? That's nothing to apologize for.
    No, you said I was Monday morning quarterbacking, insinuating that perhaps she had done something serious, perhaps enough to deserve what she got?

    I said I doubt it....Do you believe otherwise?
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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Yeah, this sure looks like excessive force. Jesus.

    Every police officer ought to have a video on him. When are we going to wise up?
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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Apoligize for proferring to tazer rather than fist-fight her? That's nothing to apologize for.
    Far as the tazer goes....Again, it's all good to "taze the crazy bitch" until that's your 51 year old mother/ aunt/sister whatever, then you'll be pissed she got tazed because she was in insulin shock or having an averse reaction to her medication.

    Grabbing a woman and twisting her arm won't kill her, tazers can and have, especially on older people....Using them like harsh language is going to kill innocent people. Not a lot strictly by the percentages, about 3 out of every thousand are seriously injured, but using tazers indiscriminately as you profess, besides causing unnecessary pain, will kill a few people, some who don't deserved to be killed based on their "crimes".

    The head of the U.S. southern regional office of Amnesty International, Jared Feuer, claimed that 277 people in the United States have died after being shocked by a Taser between June 2001 and October 2007, which has already been documented. He also claimed that about 80% of those on whom a Taser was used by U.S. police were unarmed.

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    Another report I read, but can't substantiate is another ~500 people have died from tazer use since 2011.....I presume the number of tazings has risen, rather than they have become more lethal.

    Were these all unjustified? Of course not, but I'm certain that some were and it will only get worse unless the culture of militarizing the police along with a lack of mental and physical training.
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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    I've read that before, American. I think the reason is multi. One, people know it's on video; so they can't lie. Two, officers know it's on video and they behave better. I honestly don't know why we don't make it a requirement for every LEO in the USA.
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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    Quote Originally Posted by csbrown28 View Post
    Far as the tazer goes....Again, it's all good to "taze the crazy bitch" until that's your 51 year old mother/ aunt/sister whatever, then you'll be pissed she got tazed because she was in insulin shock or having an averse reaction to her medication.
    If my grandmother is crazy enough to go for a walk on a busy freeway and she got tased while resisting police who were trying to remove her....I would be mad at her, not the cops.

    Quote Originally Posted by csbrown28 View Post
    Grabbing a woman and twisting her arm won't kill her, tazers can and have, especially on older people....Using them like harsh language is going to kill innocent people. Not a lot strictly by the percentages, about 3 out of every thousand are seriously injured, but using tazers indiscriminately as you profess, besides causing unnecessary pain, will kill a few people, some who don't deserved to be killed based on their "crimes".
    Where's your source on pedestrian freeway fatalities?

    Quote Originally Posted by csbrown28 View Post
    Another report I read, but can't substantiate is another ~500 people have died from tazer use since 2011.....I presume the number of tazings has risen, rather than they have become more lethal.

    Were these all unjustified? Of course not, but I'm certain that some were and it will only get worse unless the culture of militarizing the police along with a lack of mental and physical training.
    Your source....why does it matter if the tazed person was unarmed? Tazer is less-than-lethal force, legally identical to using mace, am I right? If the perp is armed wouldn't you want a firearm over a tazer?

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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I've read that before, American. I think the reason is multi. One, people know it's on video; so they can't lie. Two, officers know it's on video and they behave better. I honestly don't know why we don't make it a requirement for every LEO in the USA.
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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I've read that before, American. I think the reason is multi. One, people know it's on video; so they can't lie. Two, officers know it's on video and they behave better. I honestly don't know why we don't make it a requirement for every LEO in the USA.
    and just maybe the person the LE is interacting with also knows the event is being filmed.

    Seems it might result in better behavior on both sides.

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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I've read that before, American. I think the reason is multi. One, people know it's on video; so they can't lie. Two, officers know it's on video and they behave better. I honestly don't know why we don't make it a requirement for every LEO in the USA.
    I think the reasons are probably: money, storage space and opposition by local police/law enforcement unions. Worker unions aren't the only people who oppose things ya know firefighters, police officers and healthcare professionals have their own unions and they tend to get away with blocking a lot of **** too.
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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

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    We should line up all the police officers, shoot them and start from scratch.
    yeah... you just lost all credibility. Comments like that make you seem like you are trolling and pretending to be on the left in order to make the left look bad.
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