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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    No, it wouldn't be alright. The policeman's job is to restrain. If he had simply held the woman for a few seconds, backup was there to help.

    Again, please change your lean.
    I will wait till the investigation is done and made available.
    Was it excessive force, possible.
    Ever tried to restrain someone who does not want to be restrained?

    Your request for someone to change their Lean has nothing to do with the OP.
    Would you take your own request and (change your lean from undisclosed to something more liberal)

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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    This could have been a confrontation that, for whatever reason, got very emotional. By walking off the way she did, she was resisting. She was obviously fighting back when he took her down. She might have assaulted him, before she started walking off. How do we know either way?

    We only saw a few seconds of what could have been going on for several minutes. A few seconds isn't enough to say for sure what went down. Have we even heard his side of the story, yet? Or are we just going to go on a few seconds of video?


    That would be similar to how the Rodney King video played on TV only showed the cops beating him.... not the long period beforehand where he was beating the cops and throwing them around like bowling pins. Changes the perspective a bit.

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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    What are circumstances that justify continued physical force when the threat has stopped?
    How do you know the threat was gone?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Driver records CHP officer punching woman | abc13.com

    I believe this officer went way overboard.

    I watched the video, finally (had trouble getting it to load).


    She was resisting in some manner... I saw her hands come up, looked like she was trying to push him off.


    He did indeed punch the **** out of her... hard to justify in an absence of weapons or more effective resistance than appeared to be shown... but like others I wonder what exactly happened before the vid starts.

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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How do you know the threat was gone?
    Do you give the same "innocent until proven guilty" consideration to all, or just the police?


    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I watched the video, finally (had trouble getting it to load).

    She was resisting in some manner... I saw her hands come up, looked like she was trying to push him off.

    He did indeed punch the **** out of her... hard to justify in an absence of weapons or more effective resistance than appeared to be shown... but like others I wonder what exactly happened before the vid starts.
    Isn't that a normal human reaction? *Somebody's hitting me, I want them to stop*

    Are you really supposed to just lie there and take it passively?

    What is the difference between actively resisting and naturally protecting oneself?
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    A while back here at DP there was this video posted where a prison guard subdued an attacking inmate with a body slam that appeared to render the inmate unconscious.
    He then picked up the limp person and slammed him again breaking his neck and damaging his brain eventually killing him. That guard was well within protocol with the first slam ... but the second slam earned him a conviction of manslaughter and he now is serving time in the same prison where he used to work.

    Just as in this case I believe this cop may well have had justification in subduing the person his continued beating became punitive and vengeful.
    He went about five punches too far and should be convicted of aggravated assault.
    Law enforcement Officers need to learn that just as there is a time to turn on the violence ... learning the time to turn it off is maybe even more important
    Last edited by Buck Ewer; 07-06-14 at 04:40 PM.

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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Do you give the same "innocent until proven guilty" consideration to all, or just the police?



    Isn't that a normal human reaction? *Somebody's hitting me, I want them to stop*

    Are you really supposed to just lie there and take it passively?

    What is the difference between actively resisting and naturally protecting oneself?


    No, I mean it looked like she was struggling before he punched her. It's hard to say for sure, the video quality isn't good.

    I'm not saying it was justified; as I said in my previous post, it looks excessive based on information presently available.


    Frankly I'm tempted to say something like "roid rage"...

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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Do you give the same "innocent until proven guilty" consideration to all, or just the police?



    Isn't that a normal human reaction? *Somebody's hitting me, I want them to stop*

    Are you really supposed to just lie there and take it passively?

    What is the difference between actively resisting and naturally protecting oneself?
    You ever had your ass kicked by a cop?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I watched the video, finally (had trouble getting it to load).


    She was resisting in some manner... I saw her hands come up, looked like she was trying to push him off.


    He did indeed punch the **** out of her... hard to justify in an absence of weapons or more effective resistance than appeared to be shown... but like others I wonder what exactly happened before the vid starts.
    When you punch someone repeatedly, they tend to react by trying to block your punches. Of course, this is resistance, which justifies more punching.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You ever had your ass kicked by a cop?
    When that happens, am I supposed to override my natural instinct to protect my face and let the cop punch it until he gets bored?

    Honestly I'm not sure it's physically possible to leave your arms at your sides in that situation.
    Last edited by Deuce; 07-06-14 at 06:42 PM.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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