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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    What are circumstances that justify continued physical force when the threat has stopped?
    I didn't get it at first, but like everyone else pretty much told me: "It's apdst, and like most conservatives, facts don't matter. Just his PoV will be correct no matter what."

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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhiannon View Post
    It was actually claimed by those responsible that the officer attacked this woman for her safety. And to think people believe that nonsense.
    That isn't exactly what was claimed. She was initially being physically restrained for not only her safety, but the safety of those others driving on the freeway. She was walking on the side of the freeway and had already crossed lines of traffic on the onramp to reach the freeway shoulder, where she obviously appeared to plan to walk on, if not to actually go onto the freeway itself. The officer grabbed her to keep her off the freeway. She started fighting back.

    I can't say whether the punching was excessive or not, especially given that she received no injuries from them, according to the hospital report, so apparently the officer either a) didn't get many if any to actually connect or b) he was pulling those punches to a high degree. But she was resisting him, even after the punches stopped. That isn't necessarily enough to justify the amount of punches, but it is a possible reason for them.
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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I can't say whether the punching was excessive or not, especially given that she received no injuries from them, according to the hospital report, so apparently the officer either a) didn't get many if any to actually connect or b) he was pulling those punches to a high degree. But she was resisting him, even after the punches stopped. That isn't necessarily enough to justify the amount of punches, but it is a possible reason for them.
    Please change your lean to conservative.

    I guess as long as a suspect doesn't receive any long-term damage, it doesn't matter how much the cops beat someone.

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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Please change your lean to conservative.

    I guess as long as a suspect doesn't receive any long-term damage, it doesn't matter how much the cops beat someone.
    It matters in the amount of force that can be shown to have been used, and whether that was too much. Looks can be deceiving.

    And the lean thing is funny since it shows how many don't understand that a person can have different views and leans on different issues. It wasn't that long ago that people were questioning why I had my lean as "slightly conservative" because they didn't feel I was conservative enough to claim even that.
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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    Quote Originally Posted by Buddha C View Post
    You sound like me ( as a child)
    In a way, I will come to the defense of the CHP, but NOT that individual. And not to the aid of our sensational based media . Where we need work is in the hiring / screening process .He should have been filtered out, but was not.
    WHY ?

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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    It matters in the amount of force that can be shown to have been used, and whether that was too much. Looks can be deceiving.

    And the lean thing is funny since it shows how many don't understand that a person can have different views and leans on different issues. It wasn't that long ago that people were questioning why I had my lean as "slightly conservative" because they didn't feel I was conservative enough to claim even that.
    Only someone eat up with conservativism would see this in any light except a police beating a suspect.

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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Only someone eat up with conservativism would see this in any light except a police beating a suspect.
    Then you don't know me well.

    This is a "shocks the public consciousness" scenario, where many aren't even looking at the circumstances of what transpired, both before and after, and going off of a video of the situation only.

    If he would have only thrown one or two punches, would that have been acceptable for subduing this suspect?
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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Then you don't know me well.

    This is a "shocks the public consciousness" scenario, where many aren't even looking at the circumstances of what transpired, both before and after, and going off of a video of the situation only.

    If he would have only thrown one or two punches, would that have been acceptable for subduing this suspect?
    No, it wouldn't be alright. The policeman's job is to restrain. If he had simply held the woman for a few seconds, backup was there to help.

    Again, please change your lean.

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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    No, it wouldn't be alright. The policeman's job is to restrain. If he had simply held the woman for a few seconds, backup was there to help.

    Again, please change your lean.
    Backup wasn't there to help til after. If it was there when it happened, it probably wouldn't have happened. The policeman's job is to stop the threat at the lowest level of force necessary for the situation, then restrain. The threat must be stopped first, even if the threat is to the person being stopped.
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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    You sound like me ( as a child)
    In a way, I will come to the defense of the CHP, but NOT that individual. And not to the aid of our sensational based media . Where we need work is in the hiring / screening process .He should have been filtered out, but was not.
    WHY ?
    I certainly believe that a portion we need to work on, but not all alone.

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