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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    That was kinda my point, actually.

    That said, it's highly situational - some cities will have mostly good police forces, others a more even distribution, and some few will be mostly bad.

    Part of that is due to leadership, of course.

    Having just relocated to the Pacific Northwest from the Deep South, I have to say I agree.

    In my (granted -- limited!) experience, there is a huge difference in the attitudes, mannerisms, etc. As well as a difference in how they treat the public in general...

    Location, location, location...

    Of course, that's anecdotal evidence on my part. I fully own my bias.

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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    An officer has responsibility to subdue an assailant in the interest of his and the public's safety. I'm NOT surprised that you don't understand that concept.
    From what I saw, the public's "interest" in safety, and the officer "protecting" that interest was a non-issue once she was on the ground in a defensive posture. I don't know what came before. But he clearly didn't have to use force to that degree to "protect" anything.

    That's a crock of !@*#.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddha C View Post
    It's surprising to me that you can't understand that racist police would treat different *races* differently.
    Actually, I fully understand that. I had demonstrated that in this forum to the chagrin of other posters 6 years before you showed up. However, my solution has been to fire these cops, put them through trial, create a list where they are banned from applying for LEO jobs and pretty much all means that don't include killing all cops.

    I mean, if you're white and the police are white and racist... How is it in any bloody way surprising that that would affect your experiences with them?
    Hm, I thought you were Latino. Seems awkward for a Latino from Jersey to use the bolded type of phrasing but anyways, more holes in the story. As far as your post goes: those two sentences don't make any sense together or alone. Police officers can be white and pretty decent people. We have quite a few police officers/former LEOs who are generally nice people and attack racism any chance they see it on the forum. My experience with LAPD has been that the most racist cops tend to be black. A cops race doesn't affect my experience with them anymore than the color of their eyes. I could meet a racist black/white cop one day and then a nice black/white cop the next. It all depends on the personality of the LEO. Not their race.
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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Actually, I fully understand that. I had demonstrated that in this forum to the chagrin of other posters 6 years before you showed up. However, my solution has been to fire these cops, put them through trial, create a list where they are banned from applying for LEO jobs and pretty much all means that don't include killing all cops.



    Hm, I thought you were Latino. Seems awkward for a Latino from Jersey to use the bolded type of phrasing but anyways, more holes in the story. As far as your post goes: those two sentences don't make any sense together or alone. Police officers can be white and pretty decent people. We have quite a few police officers/former LEOs who are generally nice people and attack racism any chance they see it on the forum. My experience with LAPD has been that the most racist cops tend to be black. A cops race doesn't affect my experience with them anymore than the color of their eyes. I could meet a racist black/white cop one day and then a nice black/white cop the next. It all depends on the personality of the LEO. Not their race.
    "Actually, I fully understand that. I had demonstrated that in this forum to the chagrin of other posters 6 years before you showed up. However, my solution has been to fire these cops, put them through trial, create a list where they are banned from applying for LEO jobs and pretty much all means that don't include killing all cops. "

    See, that's a compromise I'm willing to make.

    I believe in jail time for negatively impacting the social good, i.e. the public's opinion of Law Enforcement at large.

    "Hm, I thought you were Latino. Seems awkward for a Latino from Jersey to use the bolded type of phrasing but anyways, more holes in the story."

    The 1st amendment is a bitch, idn't it?

    But maybe you should try not reading too much into little, stupid things.

    "As far as your post goes: those two sentences don't make any sense together or alone. Police officers can be white and pretty decent people."

    I know. I'm talking Averages.

    "We have quite a few police officers/former LEOs who are generally nice people and attack racism any chance they see it on the forum. My experience with LAPD has been that the most racist cops tend to be black."

    Well. I can't saying anything about the LAPD, besides the stuff I've seen on the news about them beating the **** out of black and Latino kids. But again, I don't care about the Person, I care about the Average of the Institution itself.

    "A cops race doesn't affect my experience with them anymore than the color of their eyes."

    And? I'm talking about how a police officer's racism affects those subject to it and their powers.

    "I could meet a racist black/white cop one day and then a nice black/white cop the next. It all depends on the personality of the LEO. Not their race."

    Again, I'm speaking on Averages.

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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Just wait - there will be people on this forum rushing to the defense of this thug. Count on it.
    Well - a part of me sees this and wonders how much of the 'outrage' is only became she's female.
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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Well - a part of me sees this and wonders how much of the 'outrage' is only became she's female.
    Call me Chauvinist, but I think women should be treated differently than males.

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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    Quote Originally Posted by Buddha C View Post
    Call me Chauvinist, but I think women should be treated differently than males.
    Well call me an idiot - but I don't think anyone needs to get punched in the face 10 times for any reason - male or female.

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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    In all fairness, I'm lily-white Irish, and there's no mistaking it. I have dealt with some real a$$hats...

    Unfortunately, I think the degree of "a$$hatness" one encounters has more to do with geography, and less to do with race. Perhaps there's a correlation, though...

    Just my

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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Well call me an idiot - but I don't think anyone needs to get punched in the face 10 times for any reason - male or female.

    Agreed.

    But the fact that it was a woman makes it all the more worse.

    Even if it's just because of how Obvious the physical differential is in regards to Necessary Force.

    But in my opinion the fact that she's a female Does make it all the more worse.

    I come from a Beautiful Land where Machismo rejected Female enlistment and the women rose up and argued for the Right to fight against the American backed Terrorists. Doesn't mean I enjoy seeing outsiders force our women to join us in combat, but it does garner a respect that I cannot nor will not refute.

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    Re: Driver records CHP officer punching woman

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Well - a part of me sees this and wonders how much of the 'outrage' is only became she's female.
    I can see that.

    My outrage came when she *clearly* was covering her face in a defensive posture, and not a threat.

    How much latitude are we supposed to give cops, anyway?

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