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    Re: New York Healthcare Premiums Are About To Explode

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    Do you have a link for that?
    Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    After his inauguration, Obama announced to a joint session of Congress in February 2009 his intent to work with Congress to construct a plan for healthcare reform.[70][71] By July, a series of bills were approved by committees within the House of Representatives.[72] On the Senate side, from June to September, the Senate Finance Committee held a series of 31 meetings to develop a healthcare reform bill. This group — in particular, Democrats Max Baucus, Jeff Bingaman, and Kent Conrad, and Republicans Mike Enzi, Chuck Grassley, and Olympia Snowe — met for more than 60 hours, and the principles that they discussed, in conjunction with the other committees, became the foundation of the Senate's healthcare reform bill.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Became the foundation for and "wrote it" are very different things.
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    Re: New York Healthcare Premiums Are About To Explode

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    Became the foundation for and "wrote it" are very different things.
    Not very different at all

    "Became the foundation" means that they wrote the text of the bill in its' original form. Tha text, however, did not become the final bill because it subjected to numerous amendments, some of which were submitted by (and voted in favor of by) republicans

    Since the bill in its' final form is a comglomeration of original text (written by both dems and repubs) and a collection of amendments (also written by both dems and repubs) it is untrue to claim that any one person or party wrote the bill.

    Bill Summary & Status - 111th Congress (2009 - 2010) - S.AMDT.2786 - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

    Bill Summary & Status - 111th Congress (2009 - 2010) - S.AMDT.3000 - THOMAS (Library of Congress)
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    Re: New York Healthcare Premiums Are About To Explode

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    How old are you right now?
    21 at the moment, 5 more months until 22.

    Feel old, but then again half of your life is had, in reference to relative importance, by 25.

    (As in your fifth year of life from 4th is 25% of everything you know, obviously you can extrapolate the scientific inference. It's actually one of the major problems with humans obtaining extremely long life times, by the time we'd turn 100 the time would fly incredibly fast. From the individual's perspective, anyways.)

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    Re: New York Healthcare Premiums Are About To Explode

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Actually, ACA was written by a committee of six Senators, three of whom were Republicans
    Wrong again... Nearly all of the legislation that was approved, voted on and is now Obamacare was written by Democrats.

    Even if a few republicans took part in writing the law, not one of them voted yes in the congress or the senate.

    Just face it, democrats are the sole, 100% owners of Obamacare and no matter how hard you spin this, that will never change. It's a steaming pile of agenda driven crap dumped on America's front lawn that stinks more every day, that republicans are going to have to eventually clean up because democrats won't do the responsible thing and clean up their own mess.
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    Re: New York Healthcare Premiums Are About To Explode

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Wrong again... Nearly all of the legislation that was approved, voted on and is now Obamacare was written by Democrats.

    Even if a few republicans took part in writing the law, not one of them voted yes in the congress or the senate.
    I have already posted links which prove that republicans not only wrote portions of the bill, but also voted for them in Congress,
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    Re: New York Healthcare Premiums Are About To Explode

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I have already posted links which prove that republicans not only wrote portions of the bill, but also voted for them in Congress,
    How many Republicans in the house and senate combined voted for the passage of that legislation?

    That would be a big fat 0.

    You can not blame republicans for a law that not one of them voted for... Unless you're a liberal, then of course that probably make perfect sense.

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    Re: New York Healthcare Premiums Are About To Explode

    I lived in New York prior to the ACA passage and my premiums were already going up double digits.
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    Re: New York Healthcare Premiums Are About To Explode

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    How many Republicans in the house and senate combined voted for the passage of that legislation?

    That would be a big fat 0.

    You can not blame republicans for a law that not one of them voted for... Unless you're a liberal, then of course that probably make perfect sense.
    Oh well if they only wrote it and didn't vote for it, that's fine then. No responsibility!
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: New York Healthcare Premiums Are About To Explode

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    How many Republicans in the house and senate combined voted for the passage of that legislation?

    That would be a big fat 0.

    You can not blame republicans for a law that not one of them voted for... Unless you're a liberal, then of course that probably make perfect sense.
    The issue being discussed was "who wrote the law". I have proven that members of both parties wrote sections of the law.

    Changing the subject to "who voted for it?" won't change the fact the republicans helped write the law.
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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