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    Re: New York Healthcare Premiums Are About To Explode

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Our healthcare is expensive, research and innovation are huge costs and those companies need to recoup the costs in the US market, not the international one that can likely feed off of our work and then turn it around for a profit. Education (and standards) are typically higher in the US and are more costly. Malpractice insurance in the US is crazy expensive for some specialties and our population tends to not be the healthiest (high obesity rate contributing to disease and cost). Name a handful of policies the government has enacted that drive down the true cost of healthcare (not caps on services) or show to me how government involvement in this case isn't resulting in an increase of premium cost.
    Do you just want me to link you to Healthcare Systems that are more Public dependent?

    As for the second part of the Bolded, I didn't Say that ACA isn't resulting in Premium Costs increases. I don't agree with ACA either.

    One of the things the French Healthcare System does is pays doctors to actually get Frenchmen to quit smoking.

    "Our healthcare is expensive, research and innovation are huge costs and those companies need to recoup the costs in the US market, not the international one that can likely feed off of our work and then turn it around for a profit."

    I'm sorry, did I post nations that are third world countries that innovate absolutely nothing? I did not. Have you looked up the differences in costs between the same medical equipment from other OECD countries and this 'great' nation?

    " Education (and standards) are typically higher in the US and are more costly."

    Yes. And that has to do with the Private Sector.

    What does the AMA do?

    It charters Medical Schools and Quotas the number of Student-Doctors.

    What is the AMA? Doctors.

    What does the AMA/Doctors do in response to the # of Medical Schools and Quotas?

    Keeps them low, so there's an Under-Supply of Doctors so that the current Doctors can acquire a larger pay check.

    "Malpractice insurance in the US is crazy expensive for some specialties and our population tends to not be the healthiest (high obesity rate contributing to disease and cost)."

    That's great.

    We're obese because, unlike the EU (and this was a main sticking point in the EU-USA FTA negotiations), in the US food market/FDA one has to PROVE that the food is Detrimental.

    In Europe one has to PROVE that the food is NOT Detrimental.

    Capitalism is best-ism!

    As for Malpractice, I'm sure having the government installed would assist in that since it'd be the government involved. However, that does bring up a good point. I'll need to do some personal research on that. But I have a feeling it has to do more with our Law system than anything else, but don't hold me to that

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    Re: New York Healthcare Premiums Are About To Explode

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    I understand what you posted just fine. You just became hopelessly lost in a thread by post #4. That is probably not a record around here but you are in good (bad) company.
    Alrighty right! I guess we should just ignore each other since you think I'm an invalid and such the feeling is mutual.

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    Re: New York Healthcare Premiums Are About To Explode

    Who will pay premiums for the illegal immigrant children?
    Redneck, hillbilly, fundie, Bible thumper, cracker, split tails, geezer, loon, xenophobe, islamaphobe, and homophobe are not words of tolerance.

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    Re: New York Healthcare Premiums Are About To Explode

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    Who will pay premiums for the illegal immigrant children?
    Ah yes. The Heartless Licentiousness.

    Those damn subhumans.

    GET MA GAWN SOZ I KANZ KEEPZ MAH JAWB

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    Re: New York Healthcare Premiums Are About To Explode

    Quote Originally Posted by Buddha C View Post
    Ah yes. The Heartless Licentiousness.

    Those damn subhumans.

    GET MA GAWN SOZ I KANZ KEEPZ MAH JAWB
    You don't have an answer?
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    Re: New York Healthcare Premiums Are About To Explode

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    You don't have an answer?
    What percentage of grown illegal immigrants pay federal and state taxes? Here's a hint: Most.

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    Re: New York Healthcare Premiums Are About To Explode

    Quote Originally Posted by Buddha C View Post
    What percentage of grown illegal immigrants pay federal and state taxes? Here's a hint: Most.
    And what is their health care premium?
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    Re: New York Healthcare Premiums Are About To Explode

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    And what is their health care premium?
    No clue. Immigrants pay-in disproportionately to what they recieve in benefits, so I'm going with even. If you can find something I'd be more than happy to read it over.

    There's a better article that I actually read, but I'll put this up as a substitute until I can find the one I read.

    Illegal Aliens Who Pay Taxes May Claim Tax Credits (2013)

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    Re: New York Healthcare Premiums Are About To Explode

    Quote Originally Posted by Buddha C View Post
    No clue. Immigrants pay-in disproportionately to what they recieve in benefits, so I'm going with even. If you can find something I'd be more than happy to read it over.

    There's a better article that I actually read, but I'll put this up as a substitute until I can find the one I read.

    Illegal Aliens Who Pay Taxes May Claim Tax Credits (2013)
    So they have Medicaid?
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