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    Re: New York Healthcare Premiums Are About To Explode

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
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    Fantastic.

    Your point?

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    Re: New York Healthcare Premiums Are About To Explode

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    I don't know why it's so hard for you to admit that I am right when I say that democrats are 100% responsible for Obamacare, because not one republican voted for that legislation.
    Senator Grassley was responsible for adding the amendment that requires members of congress to be required to enroll in Obamacare.


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    Re: New York Healthcare Premiums Are About To Explode

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Senator Grassley was responsible for adding the amendment that requires members of congress to be required to enroll in Obamacare.
    That's nice....

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    Re: New York Healthcare Premiums Are About To Explode

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Umm, the link I posted explicitly states that the amendments were amendments to that House bill H.R. 3590

    Here's the link again
    Bill Summary & Status - 111th Congress (2009 - 2010) - S.AMDT.2786 - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

    See where it says "Amends: H.R.3590"?

    That means those amendments were amendments to HR 3590 and it shows that there were many amendments submitted and sponsored by republicans



    I stand corrected on the detail of the amendments.

    The foundation of the bill written by Senators was discarded in favor of the bill from the House that had nothing to do with the ACA.

    Republicans claim that most of the amendments that were accepted were technical rather than substantive.

    The White house. gov site list 5 or 6 ideas that are sourced two Republicans.

    Slate examines the GOP amendments to a Senate health care bill.

    Republican Ideas Included in the President's Proposal | The White House
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    Re: New York Healthcare Premiums Are About To Explode

    Quote Originally Posted by Buddha C View Post
    Fantastic.

    Your point?


    No point beyond what was snipped.
    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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    Re: New York Healthcare Premiums Are About To Explode

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    I stand corrected on the detail of the amendments.

    The foundation of the bill written by Senators was discarded in favor of the bill from the House that had nothing to do with the ACA.

    Republicans claim that most of the amendments that were accepted were technical rather than substantive.

    The White house. gov site list 5 or 6 ideas that are sourced two Republicans.

    Slate examines the GOP amendments to a Senate health care bill.

    Republican Ideas Included in the President's Proposal | The White House
    So you now admit that the republicans did have a hand in writing ACA. Now, the only debate left is how much of a hand did they have. That's progress

    Your own link says that a large portion of the amendments appear to be substantive. I've seen nothing to suggest otherwise.

    Also, the foundation of the bill written by the Senators (three of whom were republican) was not discarded. It was used to replace HR 3590.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: New York Healthcare Premiums Are About To Explode

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    No point beyond what was snipped.
    That someone so much younger than you has such a superior grasp of the world?

    Don't worry, I'm sure there's alot of unimportant things you're better at than me, most likely grammar and spelling.

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    Re: New York Healthcare Premiums Are About To Explode

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So you now admit that the republicans did have a hand in writing ACA. Now, the only debate left is how much of a hand did they have. That's progress

    Your own link says that a large portion of the amendments appear to be substantive. I've seen nothing to suggest otherwise.

    Also, the foundation of the bill written by the Senators (three of whom were republican) was not discarded. It was used to replace HR 3590.



    The opinion of the Slate was that the amendments were substantive, but the White House.Gov site only posted 5 ideas that were substantive of the 161 submitted. there were about 900 submitted, weren't there?

    In any event, none of this make the thing any better than it is.

    Why was it used to replace HR 3950?
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    Re: New York Healthcare Premiums Are About To Explode

    Quote Originally Posted by Buddha C View Post
    That someone so much younger than you has such a superior grasp of the world?

    Don't worry, I'm sure there's alot of unimportant things you're better at than me, most likely grammar and spelling.


    Actually, spelling has never been a strong part of my communication. Sister Mary Margaret would weep every time she need to review a lesson I'd submit. Auto correct and spell check are great crutches for my writing in this place or any other.

    As for your superior grasp of anything, only you can be the judge of your grasp of the world. The young always seem to think they have a superior grasp of all things.

    Perhaps this is why the decisions they make are always wise, thoughtful and kind.
    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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    Re: New York Healthcare Premiums Are About To Explode

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Senator Grassley was responsible for adding the amendment that requires members of congress to be required to enroll in Obamacare.


    Probably the best amendment and was, I think, immediately undermined when the staffs of the Federal thieves and I think the thieves themselves were given subsidies to pay for most of their premiums.
    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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