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Protesters block buses carrying undocumented immigrants in California

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This may already be up, and I do have some catching up to do later today.

(CNN) -- A wall of angry protesters blocked three buses of undocumented immigrants in Southern California, forcing them to turn around -- but with no clear final destination.

The immigrants had traveled from south Texas to San Diego and were on their way to be processed at the Murrieta Border Patrol station when the standoff took place Tuesday.

Protesters chanting "USA!" "Impeach Obama!" and "Deport! Deport!" blocked their route. A heated yelling match ensued between the demonstrators and a group of counterprotesters.

After the buses turned around, the 140 people on board were taken to a border station in San Ysidro, said Ron Zermeno of the National Border Patrol Council

Murrieta Police Chief Sean Hadden said he was told to expect 140 immigrants every 72 hours, with the next group scheduled to arrive on Friday. He encouraged the public to attend a town hall meeting Wednesday evening.

Protesters block buses carrying undocumented immigrants - CNN.com


OK, well, we are beginning to see the civil unrest we all knew would occur in the Obama administration.

Although I have been to the southwest, I have never crossed into Mexico. So, perhaps I am a bit naïve on this technicality. But, someone please tell me how bus loads of these people are crossing our borders. I always thought the ROADS were blocked by border patrol and you had to have documents to pass, and that illegals were sneaking in via places where there were no roads. Perhaps I am wrong. There was a time when a passport was not required in Canada. And if a pass port is not required to enter the US from Mexico, then bus loads CAN be coming in masquerading as tourists.

So, what gives with this? Everyone talks about us needing a 'fence.' If they can cross in buses with no passport, then what good would a fence do? IMO, it would only inconvenience those who use the coyotes to cross rather than loading themselves onto buses.
 
This may already be up, and I do have some catching up to do later today.



Protesters block buses carrying undocumented immigrants - CNN.com


OK, well, we are beginning to see the civil unrest we all knew would occur in the Obama administration.

Although I have been to the southwest, I have never crossed into Mexico. So, perhaps I am a bit naïve on this technicality. But, someone please tell me how bus loads of these people are crossing our borders. I always thought the ROADS were blocked by border patrol and you had to have documents to pass, and that illegals were sneaking in via places where there were no roads. Perhaps I am wrong. There was a time when a passport was not required in Canada. And if a pass port is not required to enter the US from Mexico, then bus loads CAN be coming in masquerading as tourists.

So, what gives with this? Everyone talks about us needing a 'fence.' If they can cross in buses with no passport, then what good would a fence do? IMO, it would only inconvenience those who use the coyotes to cross rather than loading themselves onto buses.


I believe they had already crossed the border as part of the Obama/Progressive Agenda invasion they are orchestrating, and these illegal alien invaders were being shipped to California.

It's great to learn legal citizens are standing up to this effort in this way. Hopefully, the violence the Obama/Progressive Agenda is help bent on creating will be kept in check, and these patriotic protests will send the invaders packing.
 
I believe they had already crossed the border as part of the Obama/Progressive Agenda invasion they are orchestrating, and these illegal alien invaders were being shipped to California.

It's great to learn legal citizens are standing up to this effort in this way. Hopefully, the violence the Obama/Progressive Agenda is help bent on creating will be kept in check, and these patriotic protests will send the invaders packing.

I am aware of where this occurred. This story is merely citizens of a town refusing to allow the buses into their town.

BUT my question is: Can they cross the border into the US without a passport. They crossed in buses somewhere. Was it at a regular border patrol station without a passport or visa?

I would like someone to clear this up for me, because if they can this is a MAJOR problem. You can no longer pass back and forth to and from Canada without a passport.
 
I am aware of where this occurred.

BUT my question is: Can they cross the border into the US without a passport. They crossed in buses somewhere. Was it at a regular border patrol station without a passport or visa?

Crossing U.S. Borders | Homeland Security

Mexican Citizens - Mexican citizens including children must present a passport with a nonimmigrant visa or a laser visa border crossing card.

•Document requirements for most Mexican citizens, including children entering the United States, do not change under WHTI. See WHTI Program Background | U.S. Customs and Border Protection for more information.
•US-VISIT biometric procedures may apply to some Mexican citizens. Find out if US-VISIT applies to you.
 
I am aware of where this occurred. This story is merely citizens of a town refusing to allow the buses into their town.

BUT my question is: Can they cross the border into the US without a passport. They crossed in buses somewhere. Was it at a regular border patrol station without a passport or visa?

I would like someone to clear this up for me, because if they can this is a MAJOR problem. You can no longer pass back and forth to and from Canada without a passport.

My understanding is they crossed on foot. They were collected in Texas, put on buses heading towards California, and stopped by the protestors. I do not believe they boarded buses in Mexico, and then drove across the boarder.
 
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The border between the US and Mexico is 1,989 miles long. How much are Americans willing to spend to make this border impenetrable? Consider a 4 foot fence casts between $2,700-$21,200 for one mile. (source) A 6 foot fence with barbed wire; considerably more.
 
I am aware of where this occurred. This story is merely citizens of a town refusing to allow the buses into their town.

BUT my question is: Can they cross the border into the US without a passport. They crossed in buses somewhere. Was it at a regular border patrol station without a passport or visa?

I would like someone to clear this up for me, because if they can this is a MAJOR problem. You can no longer pass back and forth to and from Canada without a passport.

20 million or so have already violated our borders without documentation, so yes, they can cross without documentation.

And yes, it is a major problem.
 
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The border between the US and Mexico is 1,989 miles long. How much are Americans willing to spend to make this border impenetrable? Consider a 4 foot fence casts between $2,700-$21,200 for one mile. (source) A 6 foot fence with barbed wire; considerably more.

And neither would be terribly effective. An unwatched fence is not a barrier.
 
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The border between the US and Mexico is 1,989 miles long. How much are Americans willing to spend to make this border impenetrable? Consider a 4 foot fence casts between $2,700-$21,200 for one mile. (source) A 6 foot fence with barbed wire; considerably more.

The most cost effective approach is just to let them in, with conditions. Just as Eisenhower did. Ike didn't simply try a border-block approach. We need High-skilled immigrants as they're proven entrepreneurs and business makers. But we also need low-skilled immigrants.
 
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The border between the US and Mexico is 1,989 miles long. How much are Americans willing to spend to make this border impenetrable? Consider a 4 foot fence casts between $2,700-$21,200 for one mile. (source) A 6 foot fence with barbed wire; considerably more.

While a fence is probably never going to work, even if they built a 20 foot fence made of Carbon Fiber, it would be far less than the cost to taxpayers by the millions of illegals who have been encouraged by the Obama Administration and Progressives to come here.
 
Serious problem. At this point, I would offer military support to the boarder states that want it. Or offer to supplement their National Guard units. Stop the inflow. Enforce the laws on the book.
 
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The border between the US and Mexico is 1,989 miles long. How much are Americans willing to spend to make this border impenetrable? Consider a 4 foot fence casts between $2,700-$21,200 for one mile. (source) A 6 foot fence with barbed wire; considerably more.

Only to have them dig under and make tunnels.
 
The most cost effective approach is just to let them in, with conditions. Just as Eisenhower did. Ike didn't simply try a border-block approach. We need High-skilled immigrants as they're proven entrepreneurs and business makers. But we also need low-skilled immigrants.

Let them in with conditions. And how have the conditions that currently are in place been treated?

E-Verify to protect employers. Jail and asset confiscation for employers in violation of labor laws. Immediate deportation of illegals, no matter what their family attachments are here.
 
While a fence is probably never going to work, even if they built a 20 foot fence made of Carbon Fiber, it would be far less than the cost to taxpayers by the millions of illegals who have been encouraged by the Obama Administration and Progressives to come here.

Are you sure this isn't the result of decades and decades of failed enfrorcement of immigration laws and previous amnesty or do you really believe it is due to the encouragement of Obama?
 
Are you sure this isn't the result of decades and decades of failed enfrorcement of immigration laws and previous amnesty or do you really believe it is due to the encouragement of Obama?

I believe the recent influx of illegals is an orchestrated event by the left, which includes the Obama Administration.
 
I believe the recent influx of illegals is an orchestrated event by the left, which includes the Obama Administration.

I think it's a conservative false flag operation.
 
I believe the recent influx of illegals is an orchestrated event by the left, which includes the Obama Administration.

So there hasn't been a steady influx of illegals before Obama? Come on, you have got to be kidding me that you think is because of OBama we have an influx of illegals. We've had this for DECADES.
 
easy setup border towers and used unmanned drones and other surveillance equipment. we start billing other nations for their capture and return.
no we don't need anymore unskilled workers we already have enough unskilled people in this country.

end the baby anchor laws and the citizenship status for illegals coming into america.

if you make the situation for them bad they will leave on their own. any company caught hiring illegal immigrents will be fined 20k for each for small businesses and 50k for large corporations.

again to get them to leave you have to make it hostile for them to even come here.

if they commit a crime and are jail then the bill for their housing is sent to their country of origin
once these places start getting bills from us to take care they will keep their people home.
 
So there hasn't been a steady influx of illegals before Obama? Come on, you have got to be kidding me that you think is because of OBama we have an influx of illegals. We've had this for DECADES.

i agree but obama's amnesty claims and amnesty attempts have made it worse. that is the number 1 reason that people are citing that are getting caught.
that the US government will gives us and our kids amnesty and be here.
 
Are you sure this isn't the result of decades and decades of failed enfrorcement of immigration laws and previous amnesty or do you really believe it is due to the encouragement of Obama?

The current crop of kids crossing without guardians, skills, assets, or income, is absolutely Obama's fault, and I don't believe it is unintentional. Bush had nothing to do with this.

My best guess is that Obama is like the spoiled brat that punches a hole in the football when he does not get chosen first. As he said, if he doesn't get his way, he is going to take his way.
 
The current crop of kids crossing without guardians, skills, assets, or income, is absolutely Obama's fault, and I don't believe it is unintentional. Bush had nothing to do with this.

My best guess is that Obama is like the spoiled brat that punches a hole in the football when he does not get chosen first. As he said, if he doesn't get his way, he is going to take his way.

When do you think the first time someone "without guardians, skills, assets, or income" crossed the border was? What year?
 
I think it's a conservative false flag operation.

Naw. Couldn't be. We're paying the taxes, so it wouldn't make sense to take on the additional expense.

It's just another social justice move by the forces of the Progressive Machine to further their One World agenda and cut the US down to a size they think they can exploit.
 
i agree but obama's amnesty claims and amnesty attempts have made it worse. that is the number 1 reason that people are citing that are getting caught.
that the US government will gives us and our kids amnesty and be here.

Yeah, it has nothing to do with the fact that the U.S. government for DECADES hasn't done anything real significant about this except give it lip service.:roll:

Did it ever occur to you that they are saying that to give it an excuse? They have been coming over for decades, are you serisouly saying that if Obama hadn't said anything they wouldn't have come over? Their lives over there are a crap hole and I doubt Obama's words encouraged people that weren't already going to attempt to come over in the first place.

They are coming into our country because we don't hold those that hire them accountable with heavy fines or imprisonment. If we jailed or heavily fined those that hired them we wouldn't have this problem in the first place.
 
So there hasn't been a steady influx of illegals before Obama? Come on, you have got to be kidding me that you think is because of OBama we have an influx of illegals. We've had this for DECADES.

Right. We've had tens of thousands of women and unaccompanied children pouring over the border every month for decades. Come on, you've got to be kidding yourself.
 
Right. We've had tens of thousands of women and unaccompanied children pouring over the border every month for decades. Come on, you've got to be kidding yourself.

The've been doing that for DECADES, come on. You have got to be kidding yourself if you think OBama encouraged anyone to come over here THAT WASN'T ALREADY GOING TO DO SO.
 
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