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Protesters block buses carrying undocumented immigrants in California

CJ, if people are coming from different lands without being invited, then they are bringing their crime with them.

Yes, I agree. I didn't mean to imply that those entering the country illegally are a blessing. I was responding to a comment made about the richness that different cultures can bring to a society.

Here in Canada, we also have serious problems with illegals entering our country but we also have a temporary manpower program that allows entry of non-residents, many from Mexico and other Central American countries, to meet employment needs that can't or aren't met by Canadian citizens. it might be something that would benefit the US in areas where such manpower benefits the communities involved.

That said, I still believe that until such time as economies and development in Central America are improved, people desperate to survive and provide for their families will continue to try to get into America for a better life. Europe suffers the same problems from Africa, as an example. It's human nature.
 
I also really love hog jaw and turnip greens. Mr. Racist Chinaski would probably sooner vomit than eat a bowl of them.

I was raised on that stuff. My folks on my Dads side were transplanted hillbillies via West Virginia. And if you don't add bacon to your greens, then you're missing out. Now go eat a pimento cheese sandwich.
 
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I believe we can find it in our bloated military budget to care for these children.

So minors in diapers will provide our national defense and that of your illegal alien wife as well. Groovy.
 
If you have been in tune with what is going on you would know this is true. I'm not very computer savvy.

Then why are you trying to play around on a computer? :roll:
 
So minors in diapers will provide our national defense and that of your illegal alien wife as well. Groovy.

Yea, that's it. :roll:

What do you think we should do with these minors?

BTW, my wife is not here illegally. If you remember back to your days in English class, assuming you actually went to school, I said my wife WAS an illegal, she has now been here legally for many years. So, you can stuff your insult...well, I'm sure you will think of somewhere to put it.
 
Yea, that's it. :roll:

What do you think we should do with these minors?

BTW, my wife is not here illegally. If you remember back to your days in English class, assuming you actually went to school, I said my wife WAS an illegal, she has now been here legally for many years. So, you can stuff your insult...well, I'm sure you will think of somewhere to put it.

I think they need to be deported back to where they are from. Immigration court needs to be held the day they arrive by busload. The legal term for that would be 'joinder.' Hold joint hearings for groups, load them on the buses and send them back. God Almighty. What kind of parent sends a child in diapers off to another country with strangers.
 
Then why are you trying to play around on a computer? :roll:

Because I can't post a link I should not view my opinion? Pretty narrow thinking isn't it? Look it up and you will see I am rivng.
 
Because I can't post a link I should not view my opinion? Pretty narrow thinking isn't it? Look it up and you will see I am rivng.

Learn how to post a link. It's just ****ing easy. Posters on discussion forums expect other posters to post links to validate what they are saying. I'm not your damned search engine. If you want me to see 'a thread' you ****ing post the link to it. Otherwise, there is nothing to discuss with you.
 
Learn how to post a link. It's just ****ing easy. Posters on discussion forums expect other posters to post links to validate what they are saying. I'm not your damned search engine. If you want me to see 'a thread' you ****ing post the link to it. Otherwise, there is nothing to discuss with you.

Have a nice evening. Don't bother to see if I am right which I have to do to challengd a post that I think is I correct.
 
Learn how to post a link. It's just ****ing easy. Posters on discussion forums expect other posters to post links to validate what they are saying. I'm not your damned search engine. If you want me to see 'a thread' you ****ing post the link to it. Otherwise, there is nothing to discuss with you.

Just because I can't provide link does not negate what I am saying don't be lazy. If you really want to know look it up. That is what I have to do. Have a nice evening.
 
Yes, I agree. I didn't mean to imply that those entering the country illegally are a blessing. I was responding to a comment made about the richness that different cultures can bring to a society.

Here in Canada, we also have serious problems with illegals entering our country but we also have a temporary manpower program that allows entry of non-residents, many from Mexico and other Central American countries, to meet employment needs that can't or aren't met by Canadian citizens. it might be something that would benefit the US in areas where such manpower benefits the communities involved.

That said, I still believe that until such time as economies and development in Central America are improved, people desperate to survive and provide for their families will continue to try to get into America for a better life. Europe suffers the same problems from Africa, as an example. It's human nature.

I like what this Conservative government has done in regards to forcing companies into hiring Canadians. It has made it so that companies can't hire foreign workers for low wage jobs if the regional unemployment rate is above 6%. This is a great start and a brilliant move. However, I think it should be accompanied by a denial of welfare benefits to those in the region that do not look for low wage jobs when they're clearly available. Canada's minimum wage can easily surpass the benefits of being on welfare.

Ontario is probably one of the most benefited provinces from this. Its unemployment rate is somewhere near 8% and at the same time it could be considered Canada's second economic power house (behind the prairies). Deny visas to companies who don't make an effort to hire Canadians and cut off the benefits to those that stop looking for jobs.
 
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I like what this Conservative government has done in regards to forcing companies into hiring Canadians. It has made it so that companies can't hire foreign workers for low wage jobs if the regional unemployment rate is above 6%. This is a great start and a brilliant move. However, I think it should be accompanied by a denial of welfare benefits to those in the region that do not look for low wage jobs when they're clearly available. Canada's minimum wage can easily surpass the benefits of being on welfare.

Ontario is probably one of the most benefited provinces from this. It's unemployment rate is somewhere near 8% and at the same time it could be considered Canada's second economic power house (behind the prairies). Deny visas to companies who don't make an effort to hire Canadians and cut off the benefits to those that stop looking for jobs.

I don't disagree with what you've said, with the exception that Canada is such a broad landscape of varied economies that one size fits all doesn't work. This new move is excellent for much of my Province of Ontario, but not sure it's going to be helpful in parts of British Columbia and pretty well all of Alberta. I suspect the US is very much the same. But I do strongly oppose businesses abusing the foreign worker programs as a cost avoidance tool, which some were doing.
 
I think they need to be deported back to where they are from. Immigration court needs to be held the day they arrive by busload. The legal term for that would be 'joinder.' Hold joint hearings for groups, load them on the buses and send them back. God Almighty. What kind of parent sends a child in diapers off to another country with strangers.

Actually, that does not need to happen. Don't let the plane, bus, or whatever unload. INS boards the bus, checks for necessary documents needed to enter the US. Those that have them continue on. Those that don't get refused entry.

Works that way in every country I have entered.

That's why papers are examined at the border.
 
I don't disagree with what you've said, with the exception that Canada is such a broad landscape of varied economies that one size fits all doesn't work. This new move is excellent for much of my Province of Ontario, but not sure it's going to be helpful in parts of British Columbia and pretty well all of Alberta. I suspect the US is very much the same. But I do strongly oppose businesses abusing the foreign worker programs as a cost avoidance tool, which some were doing.

I agree. I doubt it would work for provinces in the Maritimes where people are migrating out of because there is really little work available. However, it's a start. I spent some time in Nova Scotia and New Brunswick in my early 20s and thought it was a very peaceful place to live and had great nightlife considering the population sizes. I think what would benefit those provinces would be allowing companies to explore the natural resources and even explore other venues such as eco-tourism and cheapening travel costs. It can cost less to fly from Maine to Fredericton than to fly from Montreal/Toronto to Fredericton. I don't think the Maritimes have invested enough in tourism and have tried to focus on complaining about the loss of industries like ship building and logging.
 
While you're at it, why not set up some machine gun nest to get those who make it through the mind field? :roll:

Better yet how about those South Korean auto turrets. That would work nicely. Especially if you randomize the engagement ranges.
 
I didn't come here illegally, but my wife did.

You realize of course if she is still illegal that we want to send her packing.
 
I'm more interested in humanitarian aid to these children than I am deporting them.

I agree we should give them aid. And then send them home. Or better yet convince our southern neighbors to petition to be states in our United States. The they can stay wherever they want and they are legal.
 
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The border between the US and Mexico is 1,989 miles long. How much are Americans willing to spend to make this border impenetrable? Consider a 4 foot fence casts between $2,700-$21,200 for one mile. (source) A 6 foot fence with barbed wire; considerably more.

well thats cheaper than healthcare costs,war,and many other things,heck it would cost around 39 million by using the 20k per mile estimate,considering we waste billions upon billions like it grows on trees,how would 39 million somehow break the bank.
 
Open borders in a welfare-State does not, can not work.
 
well thats cheaper than healthcare costs,war,and many other things,heck it would cost around 39 million by using the 20k per mile estimate,considering we waste billions upon billions like it grows on trees,how would 39 million somehow break the bank.
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I'd just as soon spend that kind of money on education
 
The current crisis is not about Mexico. The current crisis involves unaccompanied minor children from Central America.

Mexicans didn't stop crossing the border illegally when this arose.
 
Uh, the current crop of border invaders coming here are neither Mexicans nor workers.

And once again, Mexicans didn't stop crossing our borders illegally when these children started arriving, millions of Mexicans have fled Mexico over the years for work, and many because of the ill effects of NAFTA.
 
And once again, Mexicans didn't stop crossing our borders illegally when these children started arriving, millions of Mexicans have fled Mexico over the years for work, and many because of the ill effects of NAFTA.

There are not only Mexicans trying. There are el salvadorians, Guatemalans, and Hondurans fleeing chaos and gang violance
 
There are not only Mexicans trying. There are el salvadorians, Guatemalans, and Hondurans fleeing chaos and gang violance

The thing is that in many cases, they become gang members themselves. The reason MS13 became so powerful in California was thanks to Reagan's refusal to deport many Salvadorean refugees in the 80s. These guys came over and had seen **** we hadn't even heard of in California. They admit it. So when we were running around shooting up each other for crack deals, they realized they were better at the violence than native Californians were. We had drive-bys, they had beheadings. Thank Republicans for making the issue worse by giving so many of them amnesty and enticing their cousins to come over. By the 90s you had Mexicans in MS13 - and those ****ers had dealt with cartels. Republicans in the 80s saw that California was overrun with scum and gave them a path to citizenship.
 
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