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    Re: Protesters block buses carrying undocumented immigrants in California

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Why don't liberals have the capacity to understand the difference between a mission and a war?
    Why can't conservatives learn the difference between the truth and a lie?

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    Re: Protesters block buses carrying undocumented immigrants in California

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    <"Gee wilickers, if CNN said it, it must be true. Let me check. Yep it's on the internet so it has to be true.">
    May explain how Obama got elected.

    Bush Never Said “Mission Accomplished”

    >" With the leaking Gulf oil well apparently under control, and the spilled oil mysteriously vanishing, the Obama administration has come under pressure from journalists to declare “mission accomplished.” It is understandably unwilling to do this, partly because things could still go wrong and partly because of the phrase’s unfortunate political baggage.

    According to the virtually universal political folk memory, former President George Bush prematurely declared “mission accomplished” in Iraq from the deck of an aircraft carrier in May 2003, when some of the worst fighting still lay ahead.

    We all remember that, don’t we? And if not, Kevin Connolly of BBC News in Washington has just reminded us of Bush’s much mocked statement. Analyzing President Obama’s August 2 announcement that all U.S. combat operations would end in Iraq by the end of the month, Connolly said:

    The president was careful not to repeat the mistake of his predecessor George W. Bush who famously declared that America's mission in Iraq had been accomplished seven years ago - long before the violence and instability were ended.

    But Bush didn’t say that. In fact, in his speech aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln, Bush declared: “Our mission continues.” It is true that Bush’s speech, in which he announced the end of major combat operations, was far too triumphant about U.S. military achievements. But he never “famously declared that America’s mission in Iraq had been accomplished.”

    On the contrary, he said that following the fall of Baghdad, “now our coalition is engaged in securing and reconstructing that country... We have difficult work to do in Iraq. We're bringing order to parts of that country that remain dangerous.” Bush's goal in Iraq was never purely military – his mission was to bring freedom and democracy to a vital part of the Middle East.

    Here are some more quotes from the speech:

    ■“The transition from dictatorship to democracy will take time, but it is worth every effort. Our coalition will stay until our work is done and then we will leave and we will leave behind a free Iraq.”
    ■“Our mission continues. Al Qaida is wounded, not destroyed.”
    ■“The battle of Iraq is one victory in a war on terror that began on September the 11th, 2001 and still goes on.”
    ■“America and our coalition will finish what we have begun.”


    So how did the belief that he declared “mission accomplished” become so deeply embedded in the public consciousness? The reason is that the ship’s crew, in collusion with White House staff, had strung a large banner bearing the words “mission accomplished” behind the spot where Bush was due to speak. The banner was seen on TV throughout the president’s speech. But Bush himself knew nothing about the decision to display the banner, and certainly did not approve it.

    “Irregardless,” as Bush himself used to say, the speech became known as the “mission accomplished” speech, and will probably always be known that way. A striking visual image trumps the spoken word any day. And it’s almost certainly too much to hope that the media will go back and read the speech and see what he actually said. You can forget about renaming it the “mission continues” speech, even if that would be much more accurate. "<

    Bush Never Said

    Maybe it's a Navy thing ?
    http://www.msc.navy.mil/sealift/2007...ft-2007-11.pdf


    >" The "Mission Accomplished" boast has been mocked many times since Mr. Bush's carrier speech as criticism has mounted over the failed search for weapons of mass destruction and the continuing violence in Iraq.

    When it was brought up again Tuesday at a news conference, Mr. Bush said, "The 'Mission Accomplished' sign, of course, was put up by the members of the USS Abraham Lincoln, saying that their mission was accomplished."

    "I know it was attributed somehow to some ingenious advance man from my staff — they weren't that ingenious, by the way."

    That explanation hadn't surfaced during months of questions to White House officials about proclaiming the mission in Iraq successful while violence continued.

    After the news conference, a White House spokeswoman said the Lincoln's crew asked the White House to have the sign made. The White House asked a private vendor to produce the sign, and the crew put it up, said the spokeswoman. She said she did not know who paid for the sign.

    Later, a Pentagon spokesman called The Associated Press to reiterate that the banner was the crew's idea.

    "It truly did signify a mission accomplished for the crew," Navy Cmdr. Conrad Chun said, adding the president's visit marked the end of the ship's 10-month international deployment..."<

    'Mission Accomplished' Whodunit - CBS News
    All these words to continue to perpetuate a lie. Bush ****ed up and you know it.

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    Re: Protesters block buses carrying undocumented immigrants in California

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I'm not a member of any organisations, but I am an advocate for peace. Also, I'm far too critical of the Obama administration to be a lefty. But as I told you elsewhere, its of little consequence whether you correctly identify my politics or citizenship.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It is clear to everyone here you are a committed leftist though I'll allow that you don't know you are.

    You apparently don't know much about the Middle East or what Mission Accomplished actually means. These are blank spaces in the average persons knowledge that can only be attributed to Leftism. Or you are a member of the Religion of Peace.
    It's not so clear to me. But I don't really label people left or right, even based on their lean.
    I call my own shots, largely based on an accumulation of data, and everyone knows it.
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    Re: Protesters block buses carrying undocumented immigrants in California

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    All these words to continue to perpetuate a lie. Bush ****ed up and you know it.
    It's absolutely impossible that the Iraq invasion/occupation could have happened under Obama's watch, and these guys would be doing cartwheels to defend him.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Protesters block buses carrying undocumented immigrants in California

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    All these words to continue to perpetuate a lie. Bush ****ed up and you know it.
    Here is what Old Joe thinks

    In 2010, Biden Predicted Iraq Would Be "One Of The Great Achievements Of This Administration" - YouTube
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    Re: Protesters block buses carrying undocumented immigrants in California

    I do remember Cheney saying they would welcome us with candy and flowers.

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    Re: Protesters block buses carrying undocumented immigrants in California

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Why can't conservatives learn the difference between the truth and a lie?
    The most ironically hypocritical post in the history of this forum. Your party is unequivocally built on lying to its uninformed constituents. It's the sole lifeblood.

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    Re: Protesters block buses carrying undocumented immigrants in California

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    I do remember Cheney saying they would welcome us with candy and flowers.
    We already know you hate Cheney now you surly hate Old Joe too, don't you.
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    Re: Protesters block buses carrying undocumented immigrants in California

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Why can't conservatives learn the difference between the truth and a lie?
    It's really easy, just watch Obama. Remember he did get the liar of the year award.
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    Re: Protesters block buses carrying undocumented immigrants in California

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    We already know you hate Cheney now you surly hate Old Joe too, don't you.
    Did Cheney say it?

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