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    Re: Protesters block buses carrying undocumented immigrants in California

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    Re: Protesters block buses carrying undocumented immigrants in California

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Yes, I agree. I didn't mean to imply that those entering the country illegally are a blessing. I was responding to a comment made about the richness that different cultures can bring to a society.

    Here in Canada, we also have serious problems with illegals entering our country but we also have a temporary manpower program that allows entry of non-residents, many from Mexico and other Central American countries, to meet employment needs that can't or aren't met by Canadian citizens. it might be something that would benefit the US in areas where such manpower benefits the communities involved.

    That said, I still believe that until such time as economies and development in Central America are improved, people desperate to survive and provide for their families will continue to try to get into America for a better life. Europe suffers the same problems from Africa, as an example. It's human nature.
    I like what this Conservative government has done in regards to forcing companies into hiring Canadians. It has made it so that companies can't hire foreign workers for low wage jobs if the regional unemployment rate is above 6%. This is a great start and a brilliant move. However, I think it should be accompanied by a denial of welfare benefits to those in the region that do not look for low wage jobs when they're clearly available. Canada's minimum wage can easily surpass the benefits of being on welfare.

    Ontario is probably one of the most benefited provinces from this. Its unemployment rate is somewhere near 8% and at the same time it could be considered Canada's second economic power house (behind the prairies). Deny visas to companies who don't make an effort to hire Canadians and cut off the benefits to those that stop looking for jobs.
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    Re: Protesters block buses carrying undocumented immigrants in California

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I like what this Conservative government has done in regards to forcing companies into hiring Canadians. It has made it so that companies can't hire foreign workers for low wage jobs if the regional unemployment rate is above 6%. This is a great start and a brilliant move. However, I think it should be accompanied by a denial of welfare benefits to those in the region that do not look for low wage jobs when they're clearly available. Canada's minimum wage can easily surpass the benefits of being on welfare.

    Ontario is probably one of the most benefited provinces from this. It's unemployment rate is somewhere near 8% and at the same time it could be considered Canada's second economic power house (behind the prairies). Deny visas to companies who don't make an effort to hire Canadians and cut off the benefits to those that stop looking for jobs.
    I don't disagree with what you've said, with the exception that Canada is such a broad landscape of varied economies that one size fits all doesn't work. This new move is excellent for much of my Province of Ontario, but not sure it's going to be helpful in parts of British Columbia and pretty well all of Alberta. I suspect the US is very much the same. But I do strongly oppose businesses abusing the foreign worker programs as a cost avoidance tool, which some were doing.
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    Re: Protesters block buses carrying undocumented immigrants in California

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    I think they need to be deported back to where they are from. Immigration court needs to be held the day they arrive by busload. The legal term for that would be 'joinder.' Hold joint hearings for groups, load them on the buses and send them back. God Almighty. What kind of parent sends a child in diapers off to another country with strangers.
    Actually, that does not need to happen. Don't let the plane, bus, or whatever unload. INS boards the bus, checks for necessary documents needed to enter the US. Those that have them continue on. Those that don't get refused entry.

    Works that way in every country I have entered.

    That's why papers are examined at the border.

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    Re: Protesters block buses carrying undocumented immigrants in California

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I don't disagree with what you've said, with the exception that Canada is such a broad landscape of varied economies that one size fits all doesn't work. This new move is excellent for much of my Province of Ontario, but not sure it's going to be helpful in parts of British Columbia and pretty well all of Alberta. I suspect the US is very much the same. But I do strongly oppose businesses abusing the foreign worker programs as a cost avoidance tool, which some were doing.
    I agree. I doubt it would work for provinces in the Maritimes where people are migrating out of because there is really little work available. However, it's a start. I spent some time in Nova Scotia and New Brunswick in my early 20s and thought it was a very peaceful place to live and had great nightlife considering the population sizes. I think what would benefit those provinces would be allowing companies to explore the natural resources and even explore other venues such as eco-tourism and cheapening travel costs. It can cost less to fly from Maine to Fredericton than to fly from Montreal/Toronto to Fredericton. I don't think the Maritimes have invested enough in tourism and have tried to focus on complaining about the loss of industries like ship building and logging.
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    Re: Protesters block buses carrying undocumented immigrants in California

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    While you're at it, why not set up some machine gun nest to get those who make it through the mind field?
    Better yet how about those South Korean auto turrets. That would work nicely. Especially if you randomize the engagement ranges.
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    Re: Protesters block buses carrying undocumented immigrants in California

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    I didn't come here illegally, but my wife did.
    You realize of course if she is still illegal that we want to send her packing.
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    Re: Protesters block buses carrying undocumented immigrants in California

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    I'm more interested in humanitarian aid to these children than I am deporting them.
    I agree we should give them aid. And then send them home. Or better yet convince our southern neighbors to petition to be states in our United States. The they can stay wherever they want and they are legal.
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    Re: Protesters block buses carrying undocumented immigrants in California

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    The border between the US and Mexico is 1,989 miles long. How much are Americans willing to spend to make this border impenetrable? Consider a 4 foot fence casts between $2,700-$21,200 for one mile. (source) A 6 foot fence with barbed wire; considerably more.
    well thats cheaper than healthcare costs,war,and many other things,heck it would cost around 39 million by using the 20k per mile estimate,considering we waste billions upon billions like it grows on trees,how would 39 million somehow break the bank.
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    Re: Protesters block buses carrying undocumented immigrants in California

    Open borders in a welfare-State does not, can not work.
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