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    5 things Obama can and can't do on immigration

    5 things Obama can/can't do on immigration - CNN.com

    What he can't do
    1. The president can't bar people from applying for political asylum. Those guidelines are set by the United Nations Refugee Convention, which the United States has signed, said Stephen Yale-Loehr, an immigration attorney and professor at Cornell University Law School.
    2. And no, the President can't increase the number eligible for green cards because their spouses or parents are U.S. citizens. Such matters are set by law. Though some immigration advocates have argued spouses and children shouldn't count toward 140,000 limit on employment-based green cards, whether the President can make that kind of change unilaterally is murky territory.
    3. Obama also can't just eliminate judicial review for people ordered deported such a move would violate the Constitution.
    4. Nor can he just load up all undocumented immigrants on a bus and deport them without some sort of legal hearing. That type of action also would violate the law.
    "The Constitution says that all persons have due process rights in the U.S. whether they are from another country or the U.S.," Yale-Loehr said.
    5. And, for those hoping for (or fearing) a blanket executive action legalizing all undocumented immigrants, no the President can't do that either. There's a law for that.
    "There are constitutional limits on what the president can do. We have a tripartite government system. The Congress enacts the laws; the President enact the laws," Yale-Loehr said. "The President cannot create an immigration policy willy-nilly, whole cloth. He cannot create an immigration law. He has to get Congress' approval to change an immigration law. "
    So see, the conservatives are all hot n bothered over this, and don't understand what Obama can't do.

    And they thought he'd give them amnesty. like Reagan did.

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    Re: 5 things Obama can and can't do on immigration

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    5 things Obama can/can't do on immigration - CNN.com



    So see, the conservatives are all hot n bothered over this, and don't understand what Obama can't do.

    And they thought he'd give them amnesty. like Reagan did.
    Maybe. But I haven't noticed "what he can't do" restraining him so far. Its a battle for power that has be happening since the first congress; as it should be.



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    Re: 5 things Obama can and can't do on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Thom Paine View Post
    Maybe. But I haven't noticed "what he can't do" restraining him so far. Its a battle for power that has be happening since the first congress; as it should be.



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    Congress has a no touch/no talk policy right now, Obama is being sued, so they're not discussing anything during the lawsuit, on advice from their attorneys.

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    Re: 5 things Obama can and can't do on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Congress has a no touch/no talk policy right now, Obama is being sued, so they're not discussing anything during the lawsuit, on advice from their attorneys.
    I don't care to watch these types of "goings on"; there are other important matters at hand. At the same time, checks and balances must stay in place. Anyone enamored of "can't we all just get along" should re-think that position; over a few decades that could slowly slide into permanent tyranny... we get the occasional sips from that glass already.

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    Re: 5 things Obama can and can't do on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Thom Paine View Post
    I don't care to watch these types of "goings on"; there are other important matters at hand. At the same time, checks and balances must stay in place. Anyone enamored of "can't we all just get along" should re-think that position; over a few decades that could slowly slide into permanent tyranny... we get the occasional sips from that glass already.

    And in this corner....

    Thom Paine
    People flooding our border and overwhelming our resources at the border isn't important? uh, okay.

    101 degrees F in Laredo today, could be a problem for illegal immigrants trying to enter, nothing to see here right?

    https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...%20temperature

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    Re: 5 things Obama can and can't do on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    People flooding our border and overwhelming our resources at the border isn't important? uh, okay.

    101 degrees F in Laredo today, could be a problem for illegal immigrants trying to enter, nothing to see here right?

    https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...%20temperature
    I read each of my comments within this thread and do not understand how you could deduce or extrapolate anything said that could elicit such a response.

    therefore, I take my leave of this thread

    adieu

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