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    Re: Obama authorizes 200 more Troops for Iraq.....

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Used nukes? And it was right to do so.

    But you see, that is not the question. Many games require the players to do things to win that can have negative results for all players or themselves. Have you never looked at these things. They are fascinating and it is certainly a personal loss to ignore them.

    Yeah, "games" and "players" calloused much. I don't describe the loss of human life and human suffering in such terms. Btw, if Iran ever did get nukes and used them on us, I'm satisfied that there would be plenty of Iranians that feel as you do, that it was right to do so.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I liked Condoleezza better.
    Little surprise.


    WASHINGTON — A nonpartisan, independent review of interrogation and detention programs in the years after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks concludes that “it is indisputable that the United States engaged in the practice of torture” and that the nation’s highest officials bore ultimate responsibility for it.


    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/16/wo...ref=world&_r=0
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    Re: Obama authorizes 200 more Troops for Iraq.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yeah, "games" and "players" calloused much. I don't describe the loss of human life and human suffering in such terms. Btw, if Iran ever did get nukes and used them on us, I'm satisfied that there would be plenty of Iranians that feel as you do, that it was right to do so.
    In the last sentence there seems to be a glimmer of understanding of how game theory might work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    In the last sentence there seems to be a glimmer of understanding of how game theory might work.
    Then you failed to comprehend the post.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama authorizes 200 more Troops for Iraq.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Little surprise.


    WASHINGTON — A nonpartisan, independent review of interrogation and detention programs in the years after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks concludes that “it is indisputable that the United States engaged in the practice of torture” and that the nation’s highest officials bore ultimate responsibility for it.


    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/16/wo...ref=world&_r=0
    Yes, I remember that article and the report. I didn't agree that "the United States" had tortured and believed that the formulation showed up why this group came to the conclusion it did. After looking at quite a bit of material, I am pretty sure that illegal things happened and that some people did some bad stuff. That it was "the United States" was wrong. It is also rather ignorant to say that the interrogation methods as allowed were torture. But you certainly don't want that to be so.

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    Re: Obama authorizes 200 more Troops for Iraq.....

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    Well Assad is taking it to ISIS on his side of the Border and even Bombing their HQ and Religious Court.....But then he also has to watch with BO sending money to the Rebels backed by the MB who have lost in Syria. Since he knows Al Nusra and the Liberation Front will just take them from the MB backed Rebels.

    The Kurds have taken Kirkuk and are Holding ISIS off there.. Kerry went to have talks about them going offensive too. But I think they will want their Autonomy now. Plus the majority do identify as Sunni.

    Even Al Sistani and Al Sadr wont go for trying to take Assad out.
    Kind of a quandary isn't it? The best chance the government of Iraq we installed have lies with Iran and Assad's Syrian forces. I think it is high time for Obama to switch sides in Syria. If he wants stability, he switches sides and does so in a hurry. If he wants to help ISIS, he continues to help the rebels.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Obama authorizes 200 more Troops for Iraq.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Then you failed to comprehend the post.
    I suspected you wouldn't grab the face saver I threw you. But you really should look at game theory and its applications. It would do your understanding of some things immens good.

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    It's strange that Russia and Iran are both trying to support Iraq against ISIL with military. Seems like a grab for something?
    Einstein, "science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

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    Re: Obama authorizes 200 more Troops for Iraq.....

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Yes, I remember that article and the report. I didn't agree that "the United States" had tortured and believed that the formulation showed up why this group came to the conclusion it did. After looking at quite a bit of material, I am pretty sure that illegal things happened and that some people did some bad stuff. That it was "the United States" was wrong. It is also rather ignorant to say that the interrogation methods as allowed were torture. But you certainly don't want that to be so.
    I would have preferred that US torture had not been so.
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    Re: Obama authorizes 200 more Troops for Iraq.....

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I suspected you wouldn't grab the face saver I threw you. But you really should look at game theory and its applications. It would do your understanding of some things immens good.
    Using nukes on civilian targets, supporting militant Islamic groups, and sowing instability, and those that excuse it are in need of face savers.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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