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    Before Shooting in Iraq, a Warning on Blackwater

    WASHINGTON — Just weeks before Blackwater guards fatally shot 17 civilians at Baghdad’s Nisour Square in 2007, the State Department began investigating the security contractor’s operations in Iraq. But the inquiry was abandoned after Blackwater’s top manager there issued a threat: “that he could kill” the government’s chief investigator and “no one could or would do anything about it as we were in Iraq,” according to department reports.
    Holy crap. Blackwater threatened to assassinate a government official a few weeks before these guards, who are now on trial for manslaughter, committed the heinous act of massacring civilians.

    Manslaughter? They should have been brought up on war crimes charges. They are no better than the jihadists who are now slaughtering civilians in Iraq, and should receive the same treatment. We have met the terrorists, and they are Blackwater. And people have the god damned gall to ask why they hate us? The answer is obvious. As for the Blackwater official who made the assassination threat? He deserves life in prison without parole.

    Article is here.
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    Re: Before Shooting in Iraq, a Warning on Blackwater

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Holy crap. Blackwater threatened to assassinate a government official a few weeks before these guards, who are now on trial for manslaughter, committed the heinous act of massacring civilians.

    Manslaughter? They should have been brought up on war crimes charges. They are no better than the jihadists who are now slaughtering civilians in Iraq, and should receive the same treatment. We have met the terrorists, and they are Blackwater. And people have the god damned gall to ask why they hate us? The answer is obvious. As for the Blackwater official who made the assassination threat? He deserves life in prison without parole.

    Article is here.
    Blackwater is a reckless organizations that actually believes they can get away with anything. They think of themselves of above the law. They are nothing but mercenary thugs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Blackwater is a reckless organizations that actually believes they can get away with anything. They think of themselves of above the law.
    They are nothing but mercenary thugs.



    They make their living by killing people.

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    Re: Before Shooting in Iraq, a Warning on Blackwater

    I urge everyone to read the entire NYTimes article. It is shocking and appalling. Even worse is that governmental agencies, from US Embassy officials in Iraq to the State Department and about everyone in between were in collusion with the horrific Blackwater attitude that "the law couldn't touch" them... and not only did nothing about it, they actually encouraged it because our government had allowed itself to become so dependent upon Blackwater's willingness to take high-risk missions using basically what sounds like a number of "don't ask, don't tell" procedures that were highly questionable and in some cases blatantly illegal.

    I'm not easily shocked any more. This... this shocked me.

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    Re: Before Shooting in Iraq, a Warning on Blackwater

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Blackwater is a reckless organizations that actually believes they can get away with anything. They think of themselves of above the law. They are nothing but mercenary thugs.
    For the right price DemSocialist, those mercenaries will help you succeed in your war of liberation.

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    Re: Before Shooting in Iraq, a Warning on Blackwater

    For the usual uninformed and misinformed like those who put an incompetent community organizer into the White House, there is no longer a "Black Water."

    But to **** with the left, there is a Black Water website. -> https://www.blackwaterusa.com/

    Those former Black Water employees are American military veterans doing what they should have been allowed to do when they were on active duty with the U.S. military, killing America's enemies without liberal political correct Rules of Engagement.

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    Re: Before Shooting in Iraq, a Warning on Blackwater

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    For the usual uninformed and misinformed like those who put an incompetent community organizer into the White House, there is no longer a "Black Water."

    But to **** with the left, there is a Black Water website. -> https://www.blackwaterusa.com/

    Those former Black Water employees are American military veterans doing what they should have been allowed to do when they were on active duty with the U.S. military, killing America's enemies without liberal political correct Rules of Engagement.

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    I'm not sure if you are aware of this, but killing of civilians is a war crime. And threatening to assassinate a US official is treason.
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    Re: Before Shooting in Iraq, a Warning on Blackwater

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    For the usual uninformed and misinformed like those who put an incompetent community organizer into the White House, there is no longer a "Black Water."

    But to **** with the left, there is a Black Water website. -> https://www.blackwaterusa.com/

    Those former Black Water employees are American military veterans doing what they should have been allowed to do when they were on active duty with the U.S. military, killing America's enemies without liberal political correct Rules of Engagement.

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    IF you read the article they touch on this.


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    Re: Before Shooting in Iraq, a Warning on Blackwater

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I'm not sure if you are aware of this, but killing of civilians is a war crime. And threatening to assassinate a US official is treason.
    The fire bombing of Dresden and Japan were war crimes. But if you win, you escape the gallows. That's the way it works.

    Killing civilians in Iraq when there's a recognized government in place is not war crime but falls under Iraqs jurisdiction.

    A perfect example was the My Lai incident aka "My Lai Massacre."

    If the My Lai hamlets were have been north of the 17th parallel, there would have been a war crime. But My Lai was south of the 17th parallel with in the sovereign nation of the RVN.

    The U.S. military were guest of the RVN and were under RVN laws.

    Since the RVN government in Saigon considered the civilians with in My Lai as being either VC or VC sympathizers and were classified as the enemy, the RVN government refused to file murder charges against Lt. William Kelly.

    So Lt. Kelly was brought up on charges under the UCMJ.

    CATCH-22, Black Water didn't fall under the jurisdiction of the UCMJ.

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